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Re: [wikimedia-pt] Questions about proposed new Chapter agreement for Wikimedia Portugal
by jpiresgomes＠sapo.pt 31 Jan '19

31 Jan '19

Caros Wikimedianos, Em primeiro quero manifestar o reconhecimento do esforço de análise e preocupação com o assunto que o Gonçalo Themudo, e por extensão a Direcção, revela no email enviado relativamente ao Acordo de Chapter proposto pela WMF. De facto, o Acordo de Chapter proposto parece proteger muito mais a WMF do que o Chapter, o que é compreensível porque a WMF tem muito mais a perder, incluindo as suas imagens de marca, do que qualquer um dos Chapters, ou a grande maioria dos Chapters, incluindo o de Portugal. Depois, é de admitir que o "Acordo de Chapter tipo" tenha vindo a ser desenvolvido pelos juristas que apoiam e aconselham a WMF, sendo por isso admissível que os termos desse tipo de acordo tenham evoluído ao longo do tempo, sendo mais evidente essa evolução relativamente aos Acordos de Chapter em vigor há mais tempo. Quanto às questões colocadas no e-mail do Gonçalo, permito-me tecer os seguintes comentários: 1. "WMF hereby recognizes ....", retirando a limitação da WMF autorizar a criação de outro Chapter dentro da Focus Area. Julgo que haverá "boa vontade" ("goodwill") de ambas as partes, e assim como do lado do Chapter irá ser diligenciado o cumprimento dos termos do Acordo, é de esperar que, estando este a ser cumprido, não haja motivo/razão para que a WMF entenda necessário, ou conveniente, chegar a Acordo com outro Chapter para a mesma Focus Area. 2. Chapter shall do business as " Wikimedia Portugal, an independent organization for Wikimedia volunteers in Portugal", ......Não entendo as preocupações manifestadas no e-mail, porque entendo a Wikimedia Portugal como uma associação de voluntários e com finalidades não lucrativas que procura prosseguir a Missão da Wikimedia. Este estatuto não tem impedido os membros mas activos, (dentro do conhecimento e ok da Direcção, suponho eu) de desenvolverem actividades em prol dos objectivos e segundo as regras do movimento Wikimedia. Sem prejuízo de verem ressarcidas as despesas em que incorreram, desde que previamente autorizadas pela Direcção, mas mantendo o carácter de voluntariado. E sem prejuízo de, em casos que venham a ser no futuro considerados convenientes e necessários, contratação de profissionais para desempenhar determinadas tarefas (Contabilidade, por exemplo), como acontece na WMF e noutros Chapters. Aliás, quanto a este aspecto propunha que a "tagline" fosse desenvolvida assim: "Wikimedia Portugal, an independent AND NON-PROFIT organization for Wikimedian volunteers in Portugal" 3. "The Foudation agrees....". Era melhor estar a explicitação do apoio, mas, pelos vistos, em cada caso, tem se provar que se merece o apoio. 4. "Exhibit B,2 ...". O uso das marcas ficar confinado às actividades em Portugal. Julgo que seja compreensível. Se a Wikimedia Portugal, ou algum/uns dos seus membros a actuar enquanto tal, pretender desenvolver actividades noutros países (África, Ásia, etc), em áreas onde não haja Chapters, a WMPT deverá obter o OK prévio da WMF. 5. "Exhibit B,2 ...". - Posso não estar a ver o alcance do problema. Mas, por exemplo, será que a exibição de um poster plastificado, como aconteceu nos "Dias do Software" no Seixal, implicaria a prévia autorização exterior? Convirá esclarecer o que a WMF entende realmente com esta regra, e em que circunstâncias se aplica. Mas também neste aspecto, a grande questão é o tempo de resposta da WMF, e se o tempo de resposta for aceitável, não vejo porque não hão-de ter conhecimento prévio das actividades. 6. Fundraising - aprovação prévia? Aqui convirá esclarecer o que se pretende efectivamente, qual o procedimento correcto. 7. Chapter governance reports. - O que diz o texto é que deve ser pedido um relatório a UMA EMPRESA EXTERNA ao Chapter, mas não diz que tem de ser uma Auditora internacional. Julgo que a Wikimedia Portugal tem de ter contabilidade organizada e um Contabilista que assine as suas contas. Mesmo que o relatório do Contabilista seja em português, provavelmente a Direcção terá de efectuar a tradução (neste aspecto da tradução posso dar uma ajuda). Assim, não vejo impossibilidade de cumprimento desta regra, ainda que tenha eventualmente um custo adicional. 8. Termination - sem comentário. Gostava ainda de acrescentar porque não se continua a usar o acrónimo WMPT em vez de apenas WMP, porque melhora a identificação e para evitar eventuais confusões com as congéneres por exemplo de Paraguai, Paquistão, Peru, Polónia. Decidam, e estou confiante que o farão, para o melhor da Wikimedia Portugal. Saudações, Jorge Pires Gomes Citando GoEthe.wiki <goethe.wiki(a)gmail.com>: > (sorry for cross-posting, but since this is a time sensitive issue, > I would like to get as many comments as possible) > > Dear all, > > Last 30 October, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) decided it needed > more time to evaluate the case of Wikimedia Portugal, it extended > the suspension of Wikimedia Portugal, and said that they must use > the time that would otherwise be the termination period for the > Chapter Agreement between Wikimedia Portugal and the Wikimedia > Foundation, therefore giving notice of termination of the Chapter > Agreement. WMF also said that if Wikimedia Portugal fully and > completely resolved the issues described above and otherwise > remained compliant with its obligations as a chapter - which > happened, and the suspension was lifted - then WMF would sign a new > chapter agreement with Wikimedia Portugal. The current chapter > agreement therefore terminates this 31 January. On 25 January WMF > sent us a new proposal of Chapter Agreement for Wikimedia Portugal > to sign. It can be seen here, side by side with the current Chapter > Agreement Wikimedia Portugal has with the WMF: > > https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Utilizador:Alchimista/Chapter_Agreement > > This new proposal differs in many ways from the Chapter Agreement > currently in place, and from the ones other chapters have signed (at > least the ones that are public) and we have several questions about > it, so we would like to ask the Wikimedia Portugal associates, other > affiliates and the Wikimedia community in general to help us by > clarifying some of these questions and weigh in on the advantages > and disadvantages of continuing being a WMF affiliate under these > changed conditions. > > We have also accordingly asked from the WMF a two month extension of > the current Chapter Agreement, to allow for proper discussion of > their proposal. > > Main concerns: > > These are some of the main differences we found that are concerning > us (first in italic the current agreement, second in bold the new > proposal) > > > * > “This Chapter is authorized to cover the geographic region of the > Portugal. The Foundation will not seek to create or authorize the > creation of any additional chapter within this geographic region. > The Foundation will not engage with other local organizations > without consulting with the chapter.” (Current CA) disappears > entirely, and becomes “WMF hereby recognizes Chapter as part of the > Wikimedia movement supporting its Focus Area.” (i.e. Portugal) > > * > Chapter shall do business as “Wikimedia Portugal, an independent > organization for Wikimedia volunteers in Portugal”, irrespective of > its locally incorporated name. - this seems unique among chapters, > and in our view conflicts with the possibility of affiliates > including both volunteers and professionals, as well as both > Wikimedians and people otherwise engaged and interested in programs, > such as teachers, librarians and museologists. The tagline also > seems cumbersome, awkward and we don’t understand its purpose. > > > * > The Foundation agrees to support the activities of the Chapter and > to not engage in any activity that might negatively impact the work > or image of the Chapter. (This disappears in the current proposed > agreement) > > * > Exhibit B, 2. Approved use: Use of trademarks seems to be limited to > the geographic space of Portugal: “with respect to Chapter’s > activities in Portugal”. Does this mean that use in events, > activities and partnerships involving other countries (Wikimedia > España, other Iberocoop members, etc) requires a special > authorization beforehand? > > * > Exhibit B, 2. Approved use: “Promotion material that is not intended > for Wikimedia outreach activities or community-focused events as > defined in the Wikimedia Trademark Policy (which may be found at > <https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy >) are not > approved under this License and would require specific approval > under Section 3 below.” This one is a bit convoluted and even within > our group we have different understanding of what this means. Many > of our present and past activities include GLAM partnerships, photo > contests, and conferences not in “WikiCon” style. By following the > link for the Trademark policy, it is not clear if these activities > are included in the definition of outreach or if section 4 of the > Trademark policy apply. This could mean that these activities need a > bureaucratic procedure defined as a permission in writing (by > physical mail or by an email to trademarks(a)wikimedia.org) to use the > Wikimedia Marks outside the scope of this License (“ Additional Use > ”). Each such request must include: (1) reference to this agreement; > (2) attached samples of the proposed use; and (3) the date(s) and > scope of the proposed use. Bureaucratic procedures increase > enormously from the current situation, without giving any apparent > advantage over non-affiliate community members; > > * > Use of the name and logo of Wikimedia Portugal in its fundraising > campaigns apparently must now be authorized beforehand (points 3.2 > and 3.3 of the Trademark Policy > https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy ) > > * > Exhibit A, 5.4 Chapter governance reports: “Upon the request of > WMF, but no more than once per year, Chapter shall provide WMF with > a report analyzing the effectiveness of Chapter’s governance > structures. The report shall be prepared by a firm external to > Chapter, and Chapter shall provide WMF with a copy of the report > written in or translated into English.” In an organization with > limited resources such as Wikimedia Portugal, having to comply with > such a request without providing the means to realize it would most > probably dictate its end. We would rather have it explicitly state > what conditions would trigger such a report, and that it would not > be a financial burden; > > * > Termination: “The term of this agreement is one year and is > automatically renewed unless notice is given three months in advance > by either party.” (Current CA) becomes (7.1) “This Agreement will > automatically renew for additional 1-year terms (“ Renewal Term ”), > unless either party provides written notice of its intent not to > renew 30 days prior to the end of the Term or Renewal Term.” (7.2) > “This Agreement may be terminated by either party without cause upon > 60 days written notice to the other party.” > > > Thank you for your attention, and we appreciate any comment you might have. > > Best regards, > Gonçalo Themudo > PRESIDENTE > WIKIMEDIA PORTUGAL > EMAIL: goethe.wiki(a)gmail.com > > WEBSITE: http://pt.wikimedia.org[1] > /Imagine um mundo onde cada ser humano pode partilhar livremente a > soma de todo o conhecimento, na sua própria língua./ > Ligações: --------- [1] https://sites.google.com/view/themudo

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Questions about proposed new Chapter agreement for Wikimedia Portugal
by GoEthe.wiki 28 Jan '19

28 Jan '19

(sorry for cross-posting, but since this is a time sensitive issue, I would like to get as many comments as possible) Dear all, Last 30 October, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) decided it needed more time to evaluate the case of Wikimedia Portugal, it extended the suspension of Wikimedia Portugal, and said that they must use the time that would otherwise be the termination period for the Chapter Agreement between Wikimedia Portugal and the Wikimedia Foundation, therefore giving notice of termination of the Chapter Agreement. WMF also said that if Wikimedia Portugal fully and completely resolved the issues described above and otherwise remained compliant with its obligations as a chapter - which happened, and the suspension was lifted - then WMF would sign a new chapter agreement with Wikimedia Portugal. The current chapter agreement therefore terminates this 31 January. On 25 January WMF sent us a new proposal of Chapter Agreement for Wikimedia Portugal to sign. It can be seen here, side by side with the current Chapter Agreement Wikimedia Portugal has with the WMF: https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Utilizador:Alchimista/Chapter_Agreement This new proposal differs in many ways from the Chapter Agreement currently in place, and from the ones other chapters have signed (at least the ones that are public) and we have several questions about it, so we would like to ask the Wikimedia Portugal associates, other affiliates and the Wikimedia community in general to help us by clarifying some of these questions and weigh in on the advantages and disadvantages of continuing being a WMF affiliate under these changed conditions. We have also accordingly asked from the WMF a two month extension of the current Chapter Agreement, to allow for proper discussion of their proposal. Main concerns: These are some of the main differences we found that are concerning us (first in italic the current agreement, second in bold the new proposal) - “This Chapter is authorized to cover the geographic region of the Portugal. The Foundation will not seek to create or authorize the creation of any additional chapter within this geographic region. The Foundation will not engage with other local organizations without consulting with the chapter.” (Current CA) disappears entirely, and becomes “WMF hereby recognizes Chapter as part of the Wikimedia movement supporting its Focus Area.” (i.e. Portugal) - Chapter shall do business as “Wikimedia Portugal, an independent organization for Wikimedia volunteers in Portugal”, irrespective of its locally incorporated name. - this seems unique among chapters, and in our view conflicts with the possibility of affiliates including both volunteers and professionals, as well as both Wikimedians and people otherwise engaged and interested in programs, such as teachers, librarians and museologists. The tagline also seems cumbersome, awkward and we don’t understand its purpose. - The Foundation agrees to support the activities of the Chapter and to not engage in any activity that might negatively impact the work or image of the Chapter. (This disappears in the current proposed agreement) - Exhibit B, 2. Approved use: Use of trademarks seems to be limited to the geographic space of Portugal: “with respect to Chapter’s activities in Portugal”. Does this mean that use in events, activities and partnerships involving other countries (Wikimedia España, other Iberocoop members, etc) requires a special authorization beforehand? - Exhibit B, 2. Approved use: “Promotion material that is not intended for Wikimedia outreach activities or community-focused events as defined in the Wikimedia Trademark Policy (which may be found at < https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy >) are not approved under this License and would require specific approval under Section 3 below.” This one is a bit convoluted and even within our group we have different understanding of what this means. Many of our present and past activities include GLAM partnerships, photo contests, and conferences not in “WikiCon” style. By following the link for the Trademark policy, it is not clear if these activities are included in the definition of outreach or if section 4 of the Trademark policy apply. This could mean that these activities need a bureaucratic procedure defined as a permission in writing (by physical mail or by an email to trademarks(a)wikimedia.org) to use the Wikimedia Marks outside the scope of this License (“ Additional Use ”). Each such request must include: (1) reference to this agreement; (2) attached samples of the proposed use; and (3) the date(s) and scope of the proposed use. Bureaucratic procedures increase enormously from the current situation, without giving any apparent advantage over non-affiliate community members; - Use of the name and logo of Wikimedia Portugal in its fundraising campaigns apparently must now be authorized beforehand (points 3.2 and 3.3 of the Trademark Policy https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy ) - Exhibit A, 5.4 Chapter governance reports: “Upon the request of WMF, but no more than once per year, Chapter shall provide WMF with a report analyzing the effectiveness of Chapter’s governance structures. The report shall be prepared by a firm external to Chapter, and Chapter shall provide WMF with a copy of the report written in or translated into English.” In an organization with limited resources such as Wikimedia Portugal, having to comply with such a request without providing the means to realize it would most probably dictate its end. We would rather have it explicitly state what conditions would trigger such a report, and that it would not be a financial burden; - Termination: “The term of this agreement is one year and is automatically renewed unless notice is given three months in advance by either party.” (Current CA) becomes (7.1) “This Agreement will automatically renew for additional 1-year terms (“ Renewal Term ”), unless either party provides written notice of its intent not to renew 30 days prior to the end of the Term or Renewal Term.” (7.2) “This Agreement may be terminated by either party without cause upon 60 days written notice to the other party.” Thank you for your attention, and we appreciate any comment you might have. Best regards, Gonçalo Themudo *Presidente* *Wikimedia Portugal* *Email: *goethe.wiki(a)gmail.com *Website: *http://pt.wikimedia.org <https://sites.google.com/view/themudo> *Imagine um mundo onde cada ser humano pode partilhar livremente a soma de todo o conhecimento, na sua própria língua.*

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Parceria com o ISAL
by Paulo Santos Perneta 26 Jan '19

26 Jan '19

Olá, Na passada quarta feira reuni com a direcção do ISAL - Instituto Superior de Administração e Línguas para avançarmos com a parceria que já tínhamos apalavrado. Decidimos uma planificação nestes moldes: - Fevereiro, durante as férias entre semestres - formação / acção de divulgação junto dos professores - Março - três workshops com alunos (por turma, pelo menos uma turma, c. 30 alunos) - 2 em edição, e um em Commons A partir de Março o projecto desenvolve-se concretamente, com a melhoria e construção de artigos em temas que façam sentido para o instituto, como as freguesias da região, o património, arquitectura e monumentos e os parques naturais. Também ficou combinada a participação do ISAL no Wiki Loves Earth e no Wiki Loves Monuments. As formações deverão ser asseguradas por mim e pelo Carlos Barradas. Abraço, Paulo

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Novo Membro - Estudos sobre Al Gharb Al Andaluz
by Prof.walter 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Olá pessoal Meu nome é Walter Lippold e é um prazer conhecê-los. Sou historiador e professor de História. Estou acabando minha tese em Lisboa, precisava acessar a Biblioteca do Centro de Estudos Africanos. Tenho interesse e estudo história do Al Gharb Al Andaluz. Fui professor de Medieval por 5 anos no Brasil. Em Portugal fico em Alhandra, mas vou toda semana para Vila Real de Santo António. No Algarve participei de cursos e escavações sm Cacela Velha. Meu interesse é apoiar a produção de conhecimento livre sobre o Patrimônio Islâmico Medieval no Algarve. Já tenho uma fotógrafa que concordou em fazer imagens livres também. Por todos estes elementos me inscrevi. Um abraço, Walter Lippold Enviado via ProtonMail móvel

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Fwd: [Iberocoop] Beca de doctorado sobre Género y Wikipedia
by Paulo Santos Perneta 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Bolsa de investigação na Universidade Aberta da Catalunha sobre género e wikipedia ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Ester Bonet <esterbonet(a)gmail.com> Date: sexta, 18/01/2019 à(s) 08:25 Subject: [Iberocoop] Beca de doctorado sobre Género y Wikipedia To: <iberocoop(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hola, La Universitat Oberta de Catalunya acaba de abrir una beca de investigación sobre género y Wikipedia os adjunto el enlace (en catalán y en inglés) para más información. http://waww.blogs.uoc.edu/2019/01/17/open-call-thesis-proposal-in-wikipedia… Una abrazo, Ester Bonet _______________________________________________ Iberocoop mailing list Iberocoop(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/iberocoop

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WikiWMPT 2019 (Conferência Nacional WMPT / Assembleia Geral)
by Paulo Santos Perneta 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Boa noite, Conforme proposto na reunião sobre o plano de capacitação da WMPT com o Asaf Bartov, a Wikimedia Portugal está a planear este ano fazer a Assembleia Geral anual em conjunto com uma conferência nacional, com a finalidade sobretudo de aproveitarmos a ocasião para nos conhecermos pessoalmente, e ao mesmo tempo trocar ideias e ampliar as nossas capacidades. A data sugerida é o fim de semana após o 25 de Abril, não só por permitir aproveitar a ponte, mas sobretudo por ser logo após a presença da Ana no Wikimedia Summit e na formação para chairpersons, permitindo aproveitar esses novos conhecimentos adquiridos logo quase no imediato. Para ajudar no planeamento, e proporcionar um evento útil e que corresponda do melhor modo às expectativas de todos, preparamos um pequeno questionário/ sondagem: https://goo.gl/forms/0ZVLhpG3TIKfXLJc2 Por favor respondam assim que puderem, e ajudem-nos a planear um evento de sucesso! Abraço, Paulo

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Fwd: [Wikimedia Education] Call for Education newsletter December-January
by Paulo Santos Perneta 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

Hoje é o último dia para apresentarmos algo na Newsletter de Educação. Alguém tem alguma ideia ou contributo a fazer? Abraço, Paulo ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Sailesh Patnaik <spatnaik(a)wikimedia.org> Date: quinta, 17/01/2019 à(s) 11:15 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Call for Education newsletter December-January To: Wikimedia Education <education(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hi again! A gentle reminder, today is the last day to submit articles for Education Newsletter. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/Newsroom Best! Sailesh On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:48 AM Sailesh Patnaik <spatnaik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Happy New Year!! :) > > It's time for the December-January edition of the Education newsletter! > We are excited to know about the amazing things happened in these months > related to Wikimedia & Education. > > Please share your article at the newsroom: > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Newsletter/Newsroom > > Some updates for the December-January newsletter: > > - The date of submission of Education newsletter is 17th January > - The newsletter will be published on 20th January > > > In case you have missed the November newsletter, find it here: > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Newsletter/November_2018 > > Best! > -- > *Sailesh Patnaik (ଶୈଲେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**)* > Communications and Wikimedia Outreach Contractor > > -- *Sailesh Patnaik* Communications and Wikimedia Outreach Contractor _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education

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Reunião Plano Capacitação c/ Asaf Bartov
by Paulo Perneta 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Hoje às 21:00 GMT / Today 9 pm GMT Título: Reunião Plano Capacitação c/ Asaf Bartov Quando: Segunda 14 Jan 2019 21:00 – 22:30 Hora da Europa Ocidental - Lisboa Videochamada: Participar na videochamada <https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/cGF1bG9zcGVybmV0YUBnbWFpbC5…> Quem: * Paulo Perneta- organizador

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Voluntariado Wikimania 2019
by Paulo Santos Perneta 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Olá, Lembro que a organização do Wikimania está procurando o apoio de voluntários, tanto na organização como como Embaixadores do evento, que este ano terá lugar em Agosto, em Estocolmo, na Suécia, estando a cargo da Wikimedia Suécia. Quem quiser ajudar na organização e divulgação do maior evento anual do Movimento Wikimedia pode inscrever-se aqui: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2019/Volunteers Abraço, Paulo

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Reunião Plano de Capacitação com Asaf Bartov
by Paulo Santos Perneta 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Olá, Agora que finalmente terminou a suspensão, e tudo está a voltar à normalidade na WMPT, contactei o Asaf Bartov, tal como tinha ficado combinado o ano passado, para trabalharmos um plano de capacitação da associação. O Asaf disse que pode reunir connosco idealmente na próxima segunda feira 14 de Janeiro ao fim do dia e, caso não seja possível, quarta ao fim do dia, ou sexta a qualquer hora. O Asaf está em Israel, mais duas horas que a hora de Portugal (GMT+2), por isso não convém ser muito tarde (max 10, 10 e meia talvez). Quem puder comparecer, por favor responda a esta mensagem com a vossa disponibilidade (de preferência segunda ao fim da tarde / início da noite). Abraço, Paulo

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