Thanks to Biswarup da, to take such an effort in going and talking to them.
I really wish it would've actually happened. Would've loved to meet the
Kolkata Community and conduct such a major outreach in my home city.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <debastein(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> That is really disappointing. Thank you Jayanta da, in any case for trying
> so hard. You have been totally awesome and I hope we can do some major
> outreach other than the Book Fair.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Debanjan
> *
>
> - Lets make this world a better and more informative place*
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Biswarup Ganguly <
> gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>
>> Dear Jayanta,
>>
>>
>> This is to inform you that as no communication has been received from the
>> ‘Publisher’s and Book-seller’s Guild’, Kolkata, regarding the proposed
>> ‘Wikipedia Stall’ for the ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’, I went to the Guild
>> office today evening to know the status of stall distribution.
>>
>>
>> I met Mr. Ramen Guha, senior member, the Guild, I told our activities and
>> purpose for the stall, and he says that in this fair about 70 to 80 stalls
>> will be reduced this year as Mr. Jogen Chowdhury, the official planner of
>> ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’ planned the layout and in this limited space, it
>> is not possible to accommodate our stall as he termed us as ‘late
>> applicant’.
>>
>>
>> I again explained the non-commercial, social usefulness, voluntary
>> participation etc. then he replied that they can accommodate only against
>> Rs. 2,00,000/- (Rupees Two Lakhs) only for 100 sq. m of stall space.
>>
>>
>> I took time from him and he asked us to keep touch with them.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kalyan Sarkar <kalyan.sarkar(a)gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you Hisham. Thank you for your continued support to the Kolkata
>> > community. Lets make this event a grand success!
>> >
>> > Thanks and regards,
>> > Kalyan Sarkar
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org
wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thank you very much for your detailed comments, Kalyan. Read through
>> > them
>> > > and agree fully. My queries were not so much queries but ideas for
>> you
>> > to
>> > > consider (and maybe incorporate into your grant application.)
>> > >
>> > > You folks will know best how to run it - and you're absolutely
right
>> that
>> > > we need to adapt to the environment. I'm sure there will be some
>> > tweaking
>> > > that will be required - but like all your ideas!
>> > >
>> > > I'm also sure that a lot of preparatory work will be done prior to
the
>> > > fair and a lot of the ideas will get finalised only then.
>> > >
>> > > As I've mentioned before, do let us know any help you need
whatsoever.
>> > > We'd also love to attend some part of the book fair and meet up
with
>> as
>> > > many of you as possible.
>> > >
>> > > Warm Regards,
>> > >
>> > > hisham
>> > >
>> > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hisham,
>> > > >
>> > > > Please allow me to reply to your queries one by one.
>> > > >
>> > > > Firstly, yes, we are thinking along the lines of having two
separate
>> > > > programmes - one for the outreach and other for the editing.
>> However,
>> > we
>> > > > have to keep in mind that we would be getting only 9 square
meters
>> > space.
>> > > > We'll not have the comfort of serene indoors like we had in
Mumbai,
>> or
>> > > what
>> > > > we have at our workshops in Kolkata. Invariably, there would be
some
>> > > noise.
>> > > > In my view, it would be rather difficult to conduct our usual
>> sessions
>> > > with
>> > > > projectors and slides. Its would be somewhat awkward to arrange
20
>> odd
>> > > > chairs and a projector and expect an audience to build up for a
>> > session.
>> > > > Rather we should have as much navigable space as possible for the
>> > > visitors.
>> > > >
>> > > > I believe we need to adapt ourselves to suit the environment. For
>> our
>> > > > outreach programme, we'll have small video clips in the TV
>> explaining
>> > > what
>> > > > Wikipedia is all about. I believe we already have such videos on
the
>> > > > YouTube. We'll show clips from Wiki Conference at Mumbai and
clips
>> from
>> > > > Jimmy's speeches. We'll host a photo gallery on a portion
of a wall.
>> > > We'll
>> > > > hand every person who visits the stall, an introductory leaflet
on
>> > > > Wikipedia and a Wikipedia sticker. We'll have a volunteer who
can
>> > always
>> > > > explain the basic outreach stuff about Wikipedia to inquisitive
>> > visitors.
>> > > >
>> > > > As it would be difficult to hold workshops per se, for the
editing
>> > > > programme too, we'll show video clips explaining how to make
an edit
>> > and
>> > > > encourage the crowd to make instant edits. We'll have a couple
of
>> > laptops
>> > > > ready for them to use and a volunteer who would be there to help
>> them
>> > > out.
>> > > > Anybody who makes a successful edit would be rewarded with a
small
>> > token
>> > > > incentive. It would help to draw the crowd, especially youngsters
>> from
>> > > > schools and colleges.
>> > > >
>> > > > We'll require the following equipments.
>> > > > 1. Laptops - 2 nos.
>> > > > 2. 44" LCD/Plasma TV
>> > > > 3. Sound system
>> > > > 4. Internet connection (Wi-Fi / Data card)
>> > > > 5. Furniture for a counter + 4 chairs
>> > > >
>> > > > One sure way to get in touch with the visitors is to arrange a
lucky
>> > draw
>> > > > and ask them to fill up a small form with contact info and drop
it
>> in a
>> > > > box. Additionally we can offer spot memberships, accept donations
or
>> > ask
>> > > > them to sign up a guestbook. Our basic leaflet for outreach shall
>> have
>> > > our
>> > > > contact information, both national and local contacts and details
of
>> > our
>> > > > next workshop in Kolkata.
>> > > >
>> > > > Lastly, I feel that we should also try to sell some of our
>> merchandise,
>> > > > which could be T shirts, promotional DVDs etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Please let us know what you think.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks and regards,
>> > > > Kalyan Sarkar
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Hisham
<hisham(a)wikimedia.org>
>
wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I think this is a great idea and I'd like to volunteer
help in
>> > preparing
>> > > >> the formal grant application if required. Do let me know.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I'd also suggest the following modifications / additions
>> > > >>
>> > > >> a) Can we speak to the organisers and see if they can get this
at a
>> > > >> discounted rate - given WMF is a non-profit and the mission of
WMF?
>> > > >> b) A really important part of the event is the benefits it
will
>> > provide
>> > > to
>> > > >> the Wikimedia community / movement. In Mumbai, we had
informal
>> > > discussions
>> > > >> on what all could be done. These included whether there could
be 2
>> > > >> separate elements - one which would be basic introductory
outreach
>> > > (What is
>> > > >> Wikipedia? Did you know there is an Bengali Wikipedia? How
does
>> > > Wikipedia
>> > > >> content get on Wikipedia? Did you know you can edit? Would
you
>> like
>> > to
>> > > >> edit? Why should you edit? How can you edit?) and a series
of
>> > editing
>> > > >> workshops for those interested in taking things forward.
These
>> > > workshops
>> > > >> could be run in both Bengali and English. Can we also flesh
out
>> the
>> > > >> details of how the event will actually be conducted?
>> > > >> What will happen in what part of the stall?
>> > > >> Will there be a section on introductory outreach and one for
>> > > introductory
>> > > >> editing? How many sessions will be conducted? What
equipment
>> > (chairs,
>> > > >> projector, laptop, internet, etc. will be required? Who will
>> conduct
>> > > which
>> > > >> sessions? How will these sessions be scheduled?
>> > > >> What will happen in these sessions? How will they be
conducted?
>> How
>> > > many
>> > > >> people can attend? Is there any material that will be
required
>> (e.g.,
>> > > >> presentation material, brochures, etc.)
>> > > >> How will we stay in touch in with folks who come and attend
either
>> > basic
>> > > >> outreach sessions or basic introductory workshops?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Do let me know any assistance you need. I'd be more than
happy to
>> > help
>> > > >> out.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Would also be nice to discuss some of these things over a g+
/
>> skype /
>> > > >> phone call?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Best
>> > > >>
>> > > >> hisham
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Dear Kalyan,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Thank you for your detail proposal of hiring sound system
and
>> > stickers
>> > > >>> and/or caps, T-shirts etc. You are right that we need
broad band
>> > > >>> connection or data card whichever is available for running
the
>> live
>> > > >>> edits, teach and show throughout the exhibition.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Regards.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Kalyan Sarkar <
>> > > kalyan.sarkar(a)gmail.com>
>> > > >
wrote:
>> >
> >>>> Dear Biswarup da,
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> We need the sound system to assist the promotional
videos that we
>> > > would
>> > > >> run
>> > > >>>> on the TV as well as promotional events like spot
edit/quiz
>> > contests.
>> > > >> The
>> > > >>>> promotional videos could either be extracts from
Jimmy's
>> inspiring
>> > > >>>> speeches, clips from Wiki Conference India or small
video
>> tutorials
>> > on
>> > > >> how
>> > > >>>> to make the first edit. We can also hold spot edit
contests,
>> where a
>> > > >> random
>> > > >>>> person is selected from the crowd to make an edit. If
that is a
>> fair
>> > > >> edit,
>> > > >>>> we hand him/her a prize. We can also hold spot quiz
contests,
>> where
>> > > the
>> > > >>>> correct answer gets the prize. The prize could be a T
shirt. In
>> > order
>> > > to
>> > > >>>> organize such promotional events, we need a sound
system.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> I also think, we need internet connection or data card
whichever
>> is
>> > > >>>> applicable.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> For promotional purposes we can also think of stickers
and/or
>> paper
>> > > caps
>> > > >>>> (sun guards) with Wikipedia logo. We can also sell the
surplus T
>> > > shirts
>> > > >>>> from the Wiki Conference India programme or other
merchandise if
>> > any.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Thanks and regards,
>> > > >>>> Kalyan Sarkar
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Biswarup Ganguly
>> > > >>>> <gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> Dear Jayanta,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> It seems to be fine as a starting point of the
'Budget' to me
>> but
>> > how
>> > > >>>>> the sound system be used there?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Regards.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jayanta Nath <
>> jayantanth(a)gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > >
wrote:
>> >
> >>>>>> Hi
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> I am submitting tentative budget breakup for
this event...
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> *Item*
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> * Cost in Rs *
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 1
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Stall Booking @9 sqm
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 60,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 2
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Stall decoration
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 3
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Furniture Rent
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 4
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Plasma TV 44” With Stand
>> > > >>>>>> With DVD Player
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 5
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Laptop rent
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 6
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Sound system
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 7
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Transportation
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 8
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Food@Rs1000/day
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 12,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 9
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Leaflet
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Bengali FAQ@10000 Nos
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 20,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Bengali Promotion
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> English Wikipedia
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 10
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Hire staff/bearer
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> @ Rs 500@12 days
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 11
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Banner
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> 12
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> other incidentals
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Rs 170,000.00
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> $ 3,296.05
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=INR&To=USD
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Please I would request to every of
Bengali/Kolkata
>> > > >> community,add/modify
>> > > >>>>> or
>> > > >>>>>> expand as requirement above Budget breakup.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Asaf Bartov
<
>> > abartov(a)wikimedia.org
>> > > >
>> > > >>>>
wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Hi.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Perhaps you should correct Mr Tapas: we
belong in the
>> > > >>>>> education/reference
>> > > >>>>>>> sector, not the IT sector. And we are
non-profit.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> It is a good idea to remind our partners
that although we're
>> > based
>> > > on
>> > > >>>>>>> Internet projects, we are not at all
*about* the Internet, but
>> > > about
>> > > >>>>> free
>> > > >>>>>>> knowledge, and the creation and
dissemination thereof.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Asaf
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2011 12:10 AM, "Biswarup
Ganguly" <
>> > > >> gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>> As the types of our
organisation the Wikipedia
>> > > >>>>>>>> goes in IT category. They will provide
only the space noting
>> > else!
>> > > >>>>>>>