A few diffuse points:
Eugene's an obvious WMF board member who comes to mind.
I agree with Siska that "LoL meetings" are not desirable - any meeting on this scale should have a clear purpose, clear goals, clear things to achieve, clear things for participants to take away. My experience is that 1½ days plus a networking meet-n-greet (no sessions) the previous night, and a "conference dinner" generally works best without exhausting the participants or the organisers. Agree with Siska's points re facilitators too.
Speaking personally I'd be happy to attend, local (i.e. Australian or personal) funding permitting.
kindest regards Andrew
On 9 August 2010 13:58, Siska Doviana siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id wrote:
Maybe we could start by identifying participants before guest *grin*
- How many (everyone here) think should come as representative goes?
- Are they available?
- How long will it take? Two days/ three?
- When? (do HK seriously (STILL) want to combine it with (ALL)
chapter's meeting? If the answer to this is yes, I don't think Asia chapter's meeting host should loose focus - it's too important to WMID personally) I don't care where it will be held personally, I just don't want a LoL meeting happening. I want the host to be ready with facilitators, not from business perspective but from non profit, management guru, etc
Again, it's too important...
-- Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia Ph. +62 816 484 5052
Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Morgan Chan <morgand536@wikimedia.hk> wrote: > It would be great if two Asian wmf board members can come. > > I know Barry is responsible for chapters. And Kul helps us a lot on Asia affairs. Both of them can be invited too. > > Cheers, > Morgan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:56, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote: > >> Yes, >> But I would like to keep what relevant in place. I don't think >> inviting the whole WMF board is necessary nor productive. For example >> Example; personally I think Bishaka would definitely need to be there >> (India), but is Phoebe relevant? This is Asian chapter's meeting, I >> don't remember WMID voting for Phoebe for chapter's seat (for example) >> nor the organization find it necessary of her being there. If WMHK and >> WMAU wanted to invite her relevant to their GLAM project (for example) >> then she need to be there. >> >> Since this is a focus on us, (another example), I don't even think >> inviting Mike Godwin is necessary. >> >> So I'm just focusing on who need to be there and who doesn't. >> Otherwise it would be a waste of resources both for us (time) and >> theirs (time and money). >> >> -- >> Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia >> Ph. +62 816 484 5052 >> ~~~~ >> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: >> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi >> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Morgan Chan <morgand536@wikimedia.hk> wrote: >>> If somebody is WMF staff or board, WMF can support them finically and what we have to do is ask them. So it has no limitation on no. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Morgan >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:12, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote: >>> >>>> Oops, >>>> I forgot, if we do want to go forward and do a Asian chapters meeting >>>> - we will need Erik Zachte to be there. You can not plan without >>>> numbers and he has that. >>>> >>>> And any other persons that may be a good addition - that anyone here >>>> can think of? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia >>>> Ph. +62 816 484 5052 >>>> ~~~~ >>>> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: >>>> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Siska Doviana >>>> <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote: >>>>> Ted, >>>>> Thank you for the perspective, I still remember Anirudh saying how the >>>>> Wikimania in Taipei is the "cleanest" (meaning the most organized) - >>>>> and he was saying that after Argentine (so I was drawing a conclusion >>>>> here). >>>>> >>>>> Morgan, >>>>> I have no doubt you can deliver, I kept saying the opposite here that >>>>> (may) sound discouraging because I know for a fact that the European >>>>> is paying (most of it), and for them, unlike Wikimania, they see >>>>> chapter's meeting as "business meeting" instead of "fun/ vacation/ >>>>> wikimania" type. Sure WMF people wants to go to Hong Kong, I would >>>>> too, I mean my last experience in the German Embassy for schengen visa >>>>> is a bit traumatic compare to Hong Kong "walk in" no visa required. >>>>> >>>>> What I meant to say is this, if you do have energy to spent, focused >>>>> on the Asian chapter's meeting. It seem like a mutual agreement >>>>> already - not just venue, not just transport, you don't even have to >>>>> worry about sponsors - even if you bill the whole thing to WMF and >>>>> insist: "We need this, we need a good facilitators too - consultant >>>>> for non profit - a three day training identifying what our weakness >>>>> is, what our strength - how we can push the movement together - the >>>>> Asian way - how we can fill each other's weaknesses" - everyone would >>>>> say - YES - let them meet - they need to push forward in synergy. >>>>> >>>>> I even thought about hiring Indonesian best facilitators for this, >>>>> surely they will not bill in Euros. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Siska Doviana | Pendiri (Co-Founder) | Wikimedia Indonesia >>>>> Ph. +62 816 484 5052 >>>>> ~~~~ >>>>> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: >>>>> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list >>>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list >>> Wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-asia-chapters mailing list Wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters