On 9 August 2010 13:58, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:

Maybe we could start by identifying participants before guest *grin*
1. How many (everyone here) think should come as representative goes?
2. Are they available?
3. How long will it take? Two days/ three?
4. When? (do HK seriously (STILL) want to combine it with (ALL)
chapter's meeting? If the answer to this is yes, I don't think Asia
chapter's meeting host should loose focus - it's too important to WMID
personally) I don't care where it will be held personally, I just
don't want a LoL meeting happening. I want the host to be ready with
facilitators, not from business perspective but from non profit,
management guru, etc

Again, it's too important...

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Morgan Chan <morgand536@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
> It would be great if two Asian wmf board members can come.
>
> I know Barry is responsible for chapters. And Kul helps us a lot on Asia affairs. Both of them can be invited too.
>
> Cheers,
> Morgan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:56, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
>
>> Yes,
>> But I would like to keep what relevant in place. I don't think
>> inviting the whole WMF board is necessary nor productive. For example
>> Example; personally I think Bishaka would definitely need to be there
>> (India), but is Phoebe relevant? This is Asian chapter's meeting, I
>> don't remember WMID voting for Phoebe for chapter's seat (for example)
>> nor the organization find it necessary of her being there. If WMHK and
>> WMAU wanted to invite her relevant to their GLAM project (for example)
>> then she need to be there.
>>
>> Since this is a focus on us, (another example), I don't even think
>> inviting Mike Godwin is necessary.
>>
>> So I'm just focusing on who need to be there and who doesn't.
>> Otherwise it would be a waste of resources both for us (time) and
>> theirs (time and money).
>>
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>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Morgan Chan <morgand536@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
>>> If somebody is WMF staff or board, WMF can support them finically and what we have to do is ask them. So it has no limitation on no.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Morgan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:12, Siska Doviana <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oops,
>>>> I forgot, if we do want to go forward and do a Asian chapters meeting
>>>> - we will need Erik Zachte to be there. You can not plan without
>>>> numbers and he has that.
>>>>
>>>> And any other persons that may be a good addition - that anyone here
>>>> can think of?
>>>>
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>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Siska Doviana
>>>> <siska.doviana@wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
>>>>> Ted,
>>>>> Thank you for the perspective, I still remember Anirudh saying how the
>>>>> Wikimania in Taipei is the "cleanest" (meaning the most organized) -
>>>>> and he was saying that after Argentine (so I was drawing a conclusion
>>>>> here).
>>>>>
>>>>> Morgan,
>>>>> I have no doubt you can deliver, I kept saying the opposite here that
>>>>> (may) sound discouraging because I know for a fact that the European
>>>>> is paying (most of it), and for them, unlike Wikimania, they see
>>>>> chapter's meeting as "business meeting" instead of "fun/ vacation/
>>>>> wikimania" type. Sure WMF people wants to go to Hong Kong, I would
>>>>> too, I mean my last experience in the German Embassy for schengen visa
>>>>> is a bit traumatic compare to Hong Kong "walk in" no visa required.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I meant to say is this, if you do have energy to spent, focused
>>>>> on the Asian chapter's meeting. It seem like a mutual agreement
>>>>> already - not just venue, not just transport, you don't even have to
>>>>> worry about sponsors - even if you bill the whole thing to WMF and
>>>>> insist: "We need this, we need a good facilitators too - consultant
>>>>> for non profit - a three day training identifying what our weakness
>>>>> is, what our strength - how we can push the movement together - the
>>>>> Asian way - how we can fill each other's weaknesses" - everyone would
>>>>> say - YES - let them meet - they need to push forward in synergy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I even thought about hiring Indonesian best facilitators for this,
>>>>> surely they will not bill in Euros.
>>>>>
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