Hello,
On 5/17/07, Cormac Lawler cormaggio@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/17/07, Guillaume Paumier guillom.pom@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/15/07, Andrew Whitworth wknight8111@hotmail.com wrote:
Who has the final say in the logo? can each wikibooks project select a logo individually, or do all wikibooks projects have to have the same logo? What I mean to ask is, can the en.wikibooks community vote on the issue themselves, or do we have to have a "global" discussion on meta only?
The board has the final say in the logo. It should take a decision about logos chosen by members of the community after asking recommendation
from
the Marketing Committee.
About the color issue: logos must be specific from each project. It
should
avoid Wikimedia colors and blue derivative ones, as we already have too
many
blue logos. A logo is the most important vector of visual identity and
each
project must have its own identity, thus its own color in logo.
Thanks Guillaume,
but this is not made clear anywhere obvious - if at all. After a root around I found http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Marketing - but there is no mention of this on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logo, where I think it should be - go edit!
Right. Some pages need to be updated.
The idea of a colour scheme was introduced very late into the
Wikiversity logo vote, and I gather it was likewise in the Wikibooks one too.
Ahem, I wouldn't say the colour scheme was introduced "very late" in the Wikiversity logo vote :) http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity%2Flogo%2Farchive-vot...
From the very beginning, it was indicated the logo should not look like the
Wikimedia logo or another logo of a Wikimedia project. From the second phase, there was a warning about the colours : http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity/logo/archive-vote-2&... Last, all people who voted for the logo have seen the big section title stating "colours will have to be changed to non-Wikimedia colours", they just didn't care.
Has there been a communication problem? Surely. The marketing committee has been created only in October. It seems its creation has been hardly noticed. As a reminder, here is the email announcing its creation : http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-October/024087.html
See the paragraph:
== Logos ==
The promotion subcom will act as intermediate institution between community and board in the process of choosing new project logos. It will check if community chosen project logos fullfill the necessary requirements (format specification, copyright situation etc., see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logos) to become official project logos and submit them with a recommendation to the board for approval.
The subsequent vote on the Wikiversity logo colour change was
not to change it. ;-) So, what should we do? And will/should this colour scheme apply to all projects, effectively prompting a series of logo changes?
Definitely. But don't worry, this is going to come along with other major changes, and it will be done by consulting the community.
I think it would be great if the Marketing committee would give
guidance and leadership on the issue of the logo - provided this is open to discussion. I'm open to rethinking the whole process in the light of various comments in this branding discussion - is this something the committee have thought about?
I have precisely been working on a document about visual identity, logos, brands etc. It even contains a section called "Choosing good logos" ;-) But this document needs some further work from the Committee before being released, and then it will be submitted to the board. As soon as this plan is officially approved, we will come back to the community. In the meanwhile, all comments/requests are welcome on [[m:Talk:Marketing]] :-)