At zanimum's request, a new domain name for Wikijunior was discussed
at a Wikimedia meeting
September 18 (which was attended by the board, people with official
positions, and local chapter reps).
I asked at that whether Wikijunior should move to its own domain name.
Anthere said that she does not consider it the board's decision alone
and suggested the Wikibooks community should decide this, thinking a
new domain meant a new project. I felt the project was already
approved (since it's running on Wikibooks and we have a grant for it),
and said that I didn't see the move to a new domain as a huge issue.
Jimmy clarified that the proposal is for Wikijunior be a place to put
'finished' work, with Wikibooks still being the development community,
so it would be a 'view' on the work, not a new project per se. I asked
whether there had been any objection to it moving, but this wasn't
clear. Jimmy proposed that we notify the Wikibooks community that
we're saying yes to this, but giving a week or two for people to voice
objections, and if there are none then we can approve it and let the
Wikibooks community work out how to proceed.
So, if there are any objections to moving the finished Wikijunior
texts to Wikijunior.org and keeping the editing processes on
Wikibooks.org, please raise those, either here, or at the Wikibooks
Staff lounge (<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Staff_lounge>).
I am a reporter at the Daily Texan in Austin, and I am looking for somebody
involved with the site to interview for a story on wikibooks. Is there anybody
out there? Please reply to my email address with phone contact information.
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I'm not entirely sure if I've done the best job here to get this going,
but at least I'm trying. As per the schedule that I proposed to earlier
(and got absolutely no objection or notice of any kind about the time to
start this vote) the voting is starting today and will last through
November 1st (that is about six weeks of voting). We have the
"required" minimum of five different languages for this vote, but it
would be nice to add a couple of other languages for this process as
well... especially Spanish. If you can help translate especially the
voting page, it would be appreciated. This is just a simple yes or no
vote if you want to see this project started. Voting can be done
through this page on meta:
(find the language you are most comfortable with)
Please add discussion about the proposal on the main Wikiversity page on
Meta, or in the respective "beta" project pages that have already started.
The following announcement was also translated, so it can be added to
the "water cooler" sections of each sister project, as appropriate for
each language. I'll try to do it as time permits, and I'm trying to
disseminate this announcement as far and as wide as I can:
Die Abstimmung <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/Vote/de> über
das neue Wikimedia Schwesterprojekt Wikiversity
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity> hat begonnen. Dies ist ein
Aufruf an alle Interssierten ihre Stimme für oder gegen diesen neuen
Projektvorschlag. Das Ergebnis der Abstimmung wird entscheiden, ob
dieses Projekt auf einer eigenen Gruppe von wikis als Wikimedia
Schwesterprojekt gestartet wird (vorausgesetzt, das Board gibt seine
Zustimmung). Diskussionen über den Vorschlag sollten auf der Wikiversity
Voting <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/Vote/en> has started
for a new Wikimedia sister project proposal called Wikiversity
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity>. This is a request for
anybody that is interested to cast a vote either in support or
opposition to this new project proposal. The results of this vote will
determine if this project will be started on its own seperate group of
wikis as a Wikimedia sister project, together with approval from the
Wikimedia Foundation Board. Discussion about this proposal should take
place on the Wikiversity discussion page
Un vote a commencé pour un nouveau projet Wikimédia qui s'appelle
Wikiversité <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity>. Si vous
approuvez ou opposez ce projet, veuillez exprimer votre suffrage
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/Vote/fr>. Le résultat de ce
vote, ainsi que la décision du Conseil d'administration, déterminera si
ou non ce projet commencera comme projet Wikimédia. Débat sur la
proposition se trouve sur sa page de discussion
Voto per Wikiversity
Una votazione <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/Vote/it> è
iniziata per la proposta di un nuovo progetto di Wikimedia chiamato
Wikiversity <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity>. Questa è una
richiesta pet chiunque sia interessato a dare un voto pro o contro
questa nuova proposta di progetto. I risultati di questo voto
determineranno se questo progetto verrà avviato su un gruppo di wiki a
se stante, come progetto di Wikimedia, assieme all'approvazione del
consiglio di amministrazione della Wikimedia Foundation. La discussione
su questa proposta deve svolgersi sulla pagina di discussione di
A votação <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity/Vote/pt> já
começou para um novo projeto da Wikimedia chamado Wikiversidade
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiversity>. Este é um pedido para
qualquer um que esteja interessado em votar tanto para apoiar quanto
para opor-se a esta nova proposta de projeto. Os resultados dessa
votação irão determinar se este projeto deverá ser iniciado em seu novo
grupo de wikis separados como projeto da Wikimedia, junto da aprovação
do Conselho Diretivo da Wikimedia. Discussões sobre esta proposta devem
acontecer na página de discussão do Wikiversidade
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikiversity>, em inglês.
Robert Scott Horning
Because of something known as real-life, I'd figure that I would
announce that I'm taking a small Wikibreak from Wikibooks. Although
I will occasionally return as time permits, any changes I make would
either be to my two "pet books" ([[Pokémon]] and [[MegaMan Battle
Network]]), or will likely be minor in nature.
Reflecting on the time at Wikibooks so far, we've seen a lot of
changes. Bookshelf reorganization ([[Wikibooks:Bookshelves]]) and
title page policy ([[Wikibooks:Title pages]]) are among the two
things I'm proud to have spearheaded as a Wikibookian. While I'd
like to see a few more things fleshed out, it seems that the work of
others have left me by the wayside, and it will be a while before I
jump into the mix again.
The main personal goals of the past few months have almost been
fulfilled - doing a quick transwiki to other projects for pages in
other languages is almost a reality, and it should leave us with pure
English pages for the most part. Admins are now reacting quicker
since there are more active ones now than before. Vandalism no
longer spreads as wild as before, and Wikibooks appears to begin to
adopt common standards for all books ([[WB:NC]]). Although policy
decisions remain largely a unilateral decision, a small community is
emerging to put their opinions into a hat to try and get some
consensus, even if agressive action was needed to get people involved.
Still, I would have liked to see more people involved. [[WB:CCO]]
was (and still is) a great idea, but it appears to have stagnated.
In some places we are running in circles with regards to policy.
Policy enforcement have ended up in major debates on how books should
be named. Little efforts are made to merge together works that have
been forked. We still lack community arbitration on how we mediate
forking disputes, bookshelf disputes, category use disputes, etc.
And the MediaWiki software isn't nearly good enough to give you
features that are beneficial to wikibooks (list all categories
belonging to a book, book-specific RC, intra-book link syntax).
Oh well, if I can't help out now, I will try and come back later to
help out. Rest assured that Wikibooks and the Wikibooks community
will remain in my heart wherever I go. But for now, my work is done.
I'm looking at trying to use WikiBooks at the enterprise level.
I'd like to be able to use WikiBooks in a multilingual doc development
However a major drawback I see is that, for example, in WikiBooks the entire
body contents of a page are stored in one database field. And there's no
obvious way to link translations together.
The main body of the page is all stored in one database field. Users can
enter HTML, wiki shorthand, regular text etc - there's no enforced structure
- an XML DTD etc - to the content. This again causes portability problems to
other apps etc.
There are similar problems in Wiktionary - but they are being addressed by
the "Ultimate Wiktionary" project.
Has anyone got any thoughts/solutions for this for WikiBooks?