Not only do we need to test this feature, but we also need to discuss how/if
we want to use this. Who get editor rights; who gets reviewer rights? Who
should be able to grant/revoke those rights, and what process should there
be for doing so? Is the configuration we want possible? These are all
questions I have no answers to currently, so I look forward to hearing some
enlightened comment from people who have perhaps thought more about these
things than I have :-)
Mike.lifeguard
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From: mike.lifeguard [mailto:mike.lifeguard@gmail.com]
Sent: March 21, 2008 4:35 PM
To: 'Wikimedia textbook discussion'
Subject: Fw: [Wikitech-l] Help us Test Stable Versions!
Forwarding from Erik Moeller:
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:34:10 -0700
From: "Erik Moeller" <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Help us Test Stable Versions!
The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have collaborated, with
financial support from Wikimedia France, to support development of a new
extension to our software which makes it possible to flag versions of wiki
articles as having reached a certain quality. This new toolset could mark
the beginning of a new era for Wikipedia and its sister projects, giving
readers more transparency than ever about the quality of a given article. A
special note of thanks to Aaron Schulz, who has developed much of the
functionality as a volunteer -- we would not be where we are today without
him. The ongoing support and patience of Philipp Birken from the German
chapter was also critical.
Before this functionality will be enabled on any Wikimedia project, it needs
to be tested thoroughly for usability, bugs, security and performance. Test
wikis have been set up in English and German (because the German Wikimedia
community has been driving the development of this functionality from the
beginning).
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/http://de.labs.wikimedia.org/
These wikis contain a copy of the Wikibooks database. This copy is
completely separate from the "real" Wikibooks, so do not worry about
destroying anything of value. Please follow the instructions on the Main
Pages to participate. If you do not speak English or German, we encourage
you right now to
- set up test wikis independently using the open source extension available
from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs , or
- change the user interface preference, and create pages in the English test
wiki in your language.
This is due to our limited capacity to set up additional wikis. If you feel
you really, absolutely, strongly need a test wiki in your language, please
file a request through:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
Wikimedia communities will also have to decide what kind of configuration to
use for their project. Key questions to answer
include:
- What quality attributes should there be?
- Who should be permitted to flag changes as having been reviewed for
vandalism, or for other quality attributes?
- Should the default view for unregistered users change to the "stable
version" on all pages, some pages, or no pages?
The German Wikimedia community has implemented a particular long-standing
community proposal and will probably go live the soonest with this
configuration; other communities will still have to develop consensus.
== What's next? ==
The test will run at least until April 10, 2008 before the extension is
implemented live on any wiki. This is to allow any serious problems to be
surfaced by the community. If there are no critical open issues as of April
10, any language/project community will be permitted to file a request
through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ to activate the extension. This
request will have to point to pages in the project indicating a consensus to
move forward. Detailed instructions to do so will be posted on the test
wikis.
--
Erik M?ller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
Forwarding from Erik Moeller:
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:34:10 -0700
From: "Erik Moeller" <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Help us Test Stable Versions!
The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have collaborated, with
financial support from Wikimedia France, to support development of a new
extension to our software which makes it possible to flag versions of wiki
articles as having reached a certain quality. This new toolset could mark
the beginning of a new era for Wikipedia and its sister projects, giving
readers more transparency than ever about the quality of a given article. A
special note of thanks to Aaron Schulz, who has developed much of the
functionality as a volunteer -- we would not be where we are today without
him. The ongoing support and patience of Philipp Birken from the German
chapter was also critical.
Before this functionality will be enabled on any Wikimedia project, it needs
to be tested thoroughly for usability, bugs, security and performance. Test
wikis have been set up in English and German (because the German Wikimedia
community has been driving the development of this functionality from the
beginning).
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/http://de.labs.wikimedia.org/
These wikis contain a copy of the Wikibooks database. This copy is
completely separate from the "real" Wikibooks, so do not worry about
destroying anything of value. Please follow the instructions on the Main
Pages to participate. If you do not speak English or German, we encourage
you right now to
- set up test wikis independently using the open source extension available
from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs , or
- change the user interface preference, and create pages in the English test
wiki in your language.
This is due to our limited capacity to set up additional wikis. If you feel
you really, absolutely, strongly need a test wiki in your language, please
file a request through:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
Wikimedia communities will also have to decide what kind of configuration to
use for their project. Key questions to answer
include:
- What quality attributes should there be?
- Who should be permitted to flag changes as having been reviewed for
vandalism, or for other quality attributes?
- Should the default view for unregistered users change to the "stable
version" on all pages, some pages, or no pages?
The German Wikimedia community has implemented a particular long-standing
community proposal and will probably go live the soonest with this
configuration; other communities will still have to develop consensus.
== What's next? ==
The test will run at least until April 10, 2008 before the extension is
implemented live on any wiki. This is to allow any serious problems to be
surfaced by the community. If there are no critical open issues as of April
10, any language/project community will be permitted to file a request
through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ to activate the extension. This
request will have to point to pages in the project indicating a consensus to
move forward. Detailed instructions to do so will be posted on the test
wikis.
--
Erik M?ller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
Please translate this announcement into other languages and forward it
to other mailing lists and village pumps. (The translators list has
already been notified and will help with this process.)
The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have collaborated, with
financial support from Wikimedia France, to support development of a
new extension to our software
which makes it possible to flag versions of wiki articles as having
reached a certain quality. This new toolset could mark the beginning
of a new era for Wikipedia and its sister projects, giving readers
more transparency than ever about the quality of a given article. A
special note of thanks to Aaron Schulz, who has developed much of the
functionality as a volunteer -- we would not be where we are today
without him. The ongoing support and patience of Philipp Birken from
the German chapter was also critical.
Before this functionality will be enabled on any Wikimedia project, it
needs to be tested thoroughly for usability, bugs, security and
performance. Test wikis have been set up in English and German
(because the German Wikimedia community has been driving the
development of this functionality from the beginning).
http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/http://de.labs.wikimedia.org/
These wikis contain a copy of the Wikibooks database. This copy is
completely separate from the "real" Wikibooks, so do not worry about
destroying anything of value. Please follow the instructions on the
Main Pages to participate. If you do not speak English or German, we
encourage you right now to
- set up test wikis independently using the open source extension
available from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs ,
or
- change the user interface preference, and create pages in the
English test wiki in your language.
This is due to our limited capacity to set up additional wikis. If you
feel you really, absolutely, strongly need a test wiki in your
language, please file a request through:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
Wikimedia communities will also have to decide what kind of
configuration to use for their project. Key questions to answer
include:
- What quality attributes should there be?
- Who should be permitted to flag changes as having been reviewed for
vandalism, or for other quality attributes?
- Should the default view for unregistered users change to the "stable
version" on all pages, some pages, or no pages?
The German Wikimedia community has implemented a particular
long-standing community proposal and will probably go live the soonest
with this configuration; other communities will still have to develop
consensus.
== What's next? ==
The test will run at least until April 10, 2008 before the extension
is implemented live on any wiki. This is to allow any serious problems
to be surfaced by the community. If there are no critical open issues
as of April 10, any language/project community will be permitted to
file a request through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ to activate the
extension. This request will have to point to pages in the project
indicating a consensus to move forward. Detailed instructions to do so
will be posted on the test wikis.
--
Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
I have created an improved version of Hagindaz's Wiki2LaTeX (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Hagindaz/Wiki2LaTeX) tool, which helps creating PDF versions of books. It can download the whole book with images and automatically generate LaTeX source code, which can be directly translated into a PDF file. Still, some knowledge of LaTeX is required, but the tool can greatly reduce time of preparing PDF version of a textbook.
Currently it supports output in two languages (Polish and English), but adding support for new ones is quite easy.
The description of the program can be found at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Derbeth/javaLatex. Example output is here: http://pl.wikibooks.org/wiki/Grafika:C.pdf.
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