btw, my bad...go here http://textbook.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_History_Project for a look at the first K-12 textbook project to just get underway - well done! A great start, and congratulations to all for getting to this initial stage. Jimbo was right, "ask Wikipedia, and ye shall receive"
Sanford
----- Original Message ----- From: "KNOTT, T" TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk To: "'Wikimedia textbook discussion'" textbook-l@Wikipedia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: RE: [Textbook-l] NYT article on textbook prices
I agree. Although it would be nice to get new contributors, we should wait until we get at least one book relatively finished.
A quick question from a brit ? Is K12 high school? I'm currently working
on
a science textbook based around the UK science syllabus for kids aged
14-16
I wonder I some of my pages can be adapted by someone for the US and the rest of the world.
Theresa
-----Original Message----- From: Sanford Forte [mailto:siforte@ix.netcom.com] Sent: 16 September 2003 21:59 To: Wikimedia textbook discussion Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] NYT article on textbook prices
Yes. This has been a problem for years. It's like skimming cream off the
top
for college textbook publishers. Also, K-12 publishers are just as greedy. We need to get the K-12 project going. Believe me, once we create a *quality* K-12 book, based on strict state framework standards (ideally, California, because that would make, by far, the biggest impact), we could revolutionize the whole textbook creation and adoption process. University books are also ripe for reform, but they are really less of a challenge
than
the K-12 sector. The K-12 publishers really have a stranglehold on the books, the pricing, and the process. Millions of kids, parents, and teachers - and our society - lose in this antiquated process.
Before sending anything to Slashdot, as Karl suggests, I think it would behoove us to get something substantial underway, or have something finished. Otherwise, it's just empty promises.
Here are some more links to an excellent series (expose) in K-12 books
that
was done about 8 months ago in the San Jose Mercury News. Additionally, an excellent piece from Forbes. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/4743883.htm http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/living/education/4749572.htm http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/living/education/4756801.htm
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/1030/6612178a_print.html
Best, Sanford
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Ehrenberg" littledanehren@yahoo.com To: "Wikimedia textbook discussion" textbook-l@Wikipedia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] NYT article on textbook prices
--- Karl Wick karlwick@yahoo.com wrote:
This was on the front page of my local paper this morning:
"When Books Break the Bank"
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/16/nyregion/16BOOK.html?pagewanted=all&po...
on=
An article about outrageous textbook prices and the things that students are doing to avoid paying them. (No mention of our site unfortunately).
I saw old NYT articles on Sept 11 archived on the main wikipedia .. could we do that with this one, put the text on Wikibooks ?
I'm sorry to say this, but no Wikibooks book is anywhere near usable quality, especially in a college environment. LDan
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