I agree. Although it would be nice to get new contributors, we should wait until we get at least one book relatively finished. A quick question from a brit ? Is K12 high school? I'm currently working on a science textbook based around the UK science syllabus for kids aged 14-16 I wonder I some of my pages can be adapted by someone for the US and the rest of the world. Theresa -----Original Message----- From: Sanford Forte [mailto:siforte@ix.netcom.com] Sent: 16 September 2003 21:59 To: Wikimedia textbook discussion Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] NYT article on textbook prices Yes. This has been a problem for years. It's like skimming cream off the top for college textbook publishers. Also, K-12 publishers are just as greedy. We need to get the K-12 project going. Believe me, once we create a *quality* K-12 book, based on strict state framework standards (ideally, California, because that would make, by far, the biggest impact), we could revolutionize the whole textbook creation and adoption process. University books are also ripe for reform, but they are really less of a challenge than the K-12 sector. The K-12 publishers really have a stranglehold on the books, the pricing, and the process. Millions of kids, parents, and teachers - and our society - lose in this antiquated process. Before sending anything to Slashdot, as Karl suggests, I think it would behoove us to get something substantial underway, or have something finished. Otherwise, it's just empty promises. Here are some more links to an excellent series (expose) in K-12 books that was done about 8 months ago in the San Jose Mercury News. Additionally, an excellent piece from Forbes. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/4743883.htm http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/living/education/4749572.htm http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/living/education/4756801.htm http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/1030/6612178a_print.html Best, Sanford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Ehrenberg" <littledanehren(a)yahoo.com> To: "Wikimedia textbook discussion" <textbook-l(a)Wikipedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] NYT article on textbook prices http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/16/nyregion/16BOOK.html?pagewanted=all&p… on= _______________________________________________ Textbook-l mailing list Textbook-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/textbook-l