Hello Samuel,
I have always trusted the Wikipedia community. I think it all comes from there: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2014/09/12/emmanuel-engelhart-inventor-of-kiwix/
The editing battle is between Renaud Gaudin, Emmanuel Engelhart and me :) https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Kiwix&action=histo... I don't understand why they dispute the paternity of Fabien Coulon from Linterweb, and I don't want to know why.
And when I asked the question to the Kiwix Team I was sent back to them, so I'm going around in circles.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwix "En un principio el proyecto era mantenido por una empresa llamada Linterweb. Sin embargo, Linterweb dejó de colaborar con Kiwix por intereses comerciales (no aceptó que el formato de compresión fuese de código abierto)3 Actualmente, muchos desarrolladores están colaborando activamente en el desarrollo de Kiwix"
Nice to read you, Pascal
Le 2024-12-08 21:43, Samuel Klein a écrit :
Hello Pascal, nice to see you posting here. Can you link to the French or Spanish Wikipedia discussions/edit conflicts?
I doubt anyone was trying to distort the english wp article, just a question of what sources they found when researching. Tha is for posting links; many people on this list have been involved with offline tools since the days of the interweb and can help update.
Grateful to everyone who has contributed to Kiwix over the years, which I have used on countless occasions.
Cheers, SJ 🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 5:43 AM Pascal Martin pmartin@linterweb.fr wrote:
Hello,
Jim Wales aka Jimbo had the idea to make an encyclopedia, but the first version of MediaWiki is attributed to Magnus Manke.
Emmanuel Engelhart aka Kelson had the idea to make Kiwix, but the first version of Kiwix was made by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb.
In opensource software, it is customary to attribute authorship to the coders of the first functional version of a software who made these sources public.
This article don't mention Renaud or Emmanuel, but only Linterweb as designer on April 26, 2007 : https://web.archive.org/web/20070429040001/http://www.01net.com/editorial/34...
I don't deny the participation of Emmanuel Engelhart on the mirror aspect at the beginning of the project, as he says on the first message on the list.
"Hello everyone, just a quick email to introduce the people involved in kiwix. So far: Nytux (Fabien), he is the one who coded everything, so he is the one to ask questions about the search engine and the rest. He is an employee of Linterweb Pm27 (Pascal), he is the boss of Fabien and Linterweb, he is the treasurer. I had the idea for the project, I am a volunteer for Wikimedia France and I am responsible for dumps for Wikipedia selections. There you go. Emmanuel"
https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/mailman/kiwix-developer/?limit=100&viewm...
Don't ask me why, but sourceforge didn't keep the branches, I don't know why but the waybackmachine kept some bits. Fabien Coulon aka Nytux aka Coulonito made the first commits on this branch of Kiwix. https://web.archive.org/web/20090803143858/http://sourceforge.net/users/coul...
This screenshot is the first appearance of Kiwix, posted by Emmanuel Engelhart, it clearly says developed by Linterweb, thus recognizing our contributions at the time : https://web.archive.org/web/20070409082337/http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Im...
Fabien Coulon had admin's rights from the beginning of the project: https://web.archive.org/web/20070306091713/http://sourceforge.net/projects/k...
The merger between the two projects took place only in 2008. In 2008 it was Guillaume Duhamel aka Yabause for Linterweb who also worked on it, he created the common branch with moulinkiwi. https://web.archive.org/web/20080915100426/http://kiwix.svn.sourceforge.net/... https://www.clubic.com/actualite-243284-kiwix-wikipedia-cle-usb.html
Once again we only talk about Linterweb as a designer on this version.
As Guillaume points out, the only binaries for which we have not published the code were made for Okawix, in no case has Linterweb published binaries for Kiwix: https://linuxfr.org/nodes/96954/comments/1420846
I am surprised to don't find the mention of the linterweb employees's contribution on the Kiwix articles on Wikipedia in in english.
Like on the Hispanic article that the disagreement would be about a disagreement on the sources. I broke the partnership following the ban on exploiting for commercial use of the Kiwix project, as the external source says. I am not trying to know who carried these rumors but that someone brings me the contributions of the creators' code.
Is there any public proof of the contribution of the code to the first version of Kiwix that is attributed to Emmanuel and Renaud?
Sorry to come back to a 15 year old story, but the distortions on Wikipedia articles led to an editing conflict on the French Kiwix article, considering Renaud Gaudin and Emmanuel Engelhart as the creator of Kiwix. But all the links prove that Kiwix was created by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb.
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