Hi folks,
@cscott https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/cscott/ pointed out that in our next RfC meeting on IRC (happening later today) it would be great to have some design/UX input.
The specific task we're talking through is T90914: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90914
The IRC meeting we're talking about is E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68(today at 2pm PDT). We already doubt that any final decisions will be made at this, but getting your input on this today should be extremely helpful for moving things along.
From a Phab perspective, I would like to generally tag RfCs that need
design input, but I don't know what the best way of doing that. What tag should we use to make you aware of RfCs that should have design/UX input? If there isn't a tag that's a good fit, could we figure out a tag we should create for this purpose?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cscott no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Subject: [Calendar] E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) To: robla@wikimedia.org
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@RobLa-WMF https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/RobLa-WMF/: I'd like to get some designers' input on T90914 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90914, I don't know if they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. So I'd prefer to have good advance notice, and publicize the meeting via email involving the design team, etc.
*EVENT DESCRIPTION* Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel Time: 2015-09-30, Wednesday 21:00 UTC
* {T112553} * @GWicke is eager to move this one forward, and doesn't //seem// too controversial * {T90914} * We hope to give @cscott some time to move this one forward, but we may not have time to make much progress on this one.
We've also tentatively set up {E74} for a few hours after this meeting.
*EVENT DETAIL* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68
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In a similar vein: is design@lists.wikimedia.org a good place for email discussion of design issues? I was actually suggesting to Rob that T90914 be discussed in *next week's* meeting, since I wanted to kick off discussion from a design perspective via email first and let people have their say. I'll do that in a follow-up email to design@; let me know if there's a better forum for that. --scott
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
@cscott pointed out that in our next RfC meeting on IRC (happening later today) it would be great to have some design/UX input.
The specific task we're talking through is T90914: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display
The IRC meeting we're talking about is E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC)(today at 2pm PDT). We already doubt that any final decisions will be made at this, but getting your input on this today should be extremely helpful for moving things along.
From a Phab perspective, I would like to generally tag RfCs that need design input, but I don't know what the best way of doing that. What tag should we use to make you aware of RfCs that should have design/UX input? If there isn't a tag that's a good fit, could we figure out a tag we should create for this purpose?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cscott no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Subject: [Calendar] E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) To: robla@wikimedia.org
cscott added a subscriber: cscott. cscott added a comment.
@RobLa-WMF: I'd like to get some designers' input on T90914, I don't know if they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. So I'd prefer to have good advance notice, and publicize the meeting via email involving the design team, etc.
EVENT DESCRIPTION Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel Time: 2015-09-30, Wednesday 21:00 UTC
- {T112553}
- @GWicke is eager to move this one forward, and doesn't //seem// too
controversial
- {T90914}
- We hope to give @cscott some time to move this one forward, but we may not
have time to make much progress on this one.
We've also tentatively set up {E74} for a few hours after this meeting.
EVENT DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68
EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/
To: RobLa-WMF, cscott, ArchCom Cc: cscott, tstarling, GWicke, devunt, daniel, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm
I have spoken to the UX standardization team and they will be representing at the RFC later this afternoon. We are eager to help and be included in the process as early as possible. Thank you for reaching out.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM, C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org wrote:
In a similar vein: is design@lists.wikimedia.org a good place for email discussion of design issues? I was actually suggesting to Rob that T90914 be discussed in *next week's* meeting, since I wanted to kick off discussion from a design perspective via email first and let people have their say. I'll do that in a follow-up email to design@; let me know if there's a better forum for that. --scott
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
@cscott pointed out that in our next RfC meeting on IRC (happening later today) it would be great to have some design/UX input.
The specific task we're talking through is T90914: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display
The IRC meeting we're talking about is E68: RFC Meeting on
#wikimedia-office
IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC)(today at 2pm PDT). We already doubt that
any
final decisions will be made at this, but getting your input on this
today
should be extremely helpful for moving things along.
From a Phab perspective, I would like to generally tag RfCs that need
design
input, but I don't know what the best way of doing that. What tag
should we
use to make you aware of RfCs that should have design/UX input? If there isn't a tag that's a good fit, could we figure out a tag we should create for this purpose?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cscott no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Subject: [Calendar] E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) To: robla@wikimedia.org
cscott added a subscriber: cscott. cscott added a comment.
@RobLa-WMF: I'd like to get some designers' input on T90914, I don't
know if
they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. So I'd prefer
to
have good advance notice, and publicize the meeting via email involving
the
design team, etc.
EVENT DESCRIPTION Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel Time: 2015-09-30, Wednesday 21:00 UTC
- {T112553}
- @GWicke is eager to move this one forward, and doesn't //seem// too
controversial
- {T90914}
- We hope to give @cscott some time to move this one forward, but we may
not
have time to make much progress on this one.
We've also tentatively set up {E74} for a few hours after this meeting.
EVENT DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68
EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/
To: RobLa-WMF, cscott, ArchCom Cc: cscott, tstarling, GWicke, devunt, daniel, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm
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I don't think every designer has made the transition to Phabricator. We can try to configure a tag for Design RFCs on Phab and designers can pass the news around to relevant members. Otherwise an email like this is best.
mm
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Sherah Smith ssmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have spoken to the UX standardization team and they will be representing at the RFC later this afternoon. We are eager to help and be included in the process as early as possible. Thank you for reaching out.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM, C. Scott Ananian <cananian@wikimedia.org
wrote:
In a similar vein: is design@lists.wikimedia.org a good place for email discussion of design issues? I was actually suggesting to Rob that T90914 be discussed in *next week's* meeting, since I wanted to kick off discussion from a design perspective via email first and let people have their say. I'll do that in a follow-up email to design@; let me know if there's a better forum for that. --scott
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
@cscott pointed out that in our next RfC meeting on IRC (happening later today) it would be great to have some design/UX input.
The specific task we're talking through is T90914: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display
The IRC meeting we're talking about is E68: RFC Meeting on
#wikimedia-office
IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC)(today at 2pm PDT). We already doubt that
any
final decisions will be made at this, but getting your input on this
today
should be extremely helpful for moving things along.
From a Phab perspective, I would like to generally tag RfCs that need
design
input, but I don't know what the best way of doing that. What tag
should we
use to make you aware of RfCs that should have design/UX input? If
there
isn't a tag that's a good fit, could we figure out a tag we should
create
for this purpose?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cscott no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Subject: [Calendar] E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) To: robla@wikimedia.org
cscott added a subscriber: cscott. cscott added a comment.
@RobLa-WMF: I'd like to get some designers' input on T90914, I don't
know if
they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. So I'd
prefer to
have good advance notice, and publicize the meeting via email involving
the
design team, etc.
EVENT DESCRIPTION Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel Time: 2015-09-30, Wednesday 21:00 UTC
- {T112553}
- @GWicke is eager to move this one forward, and doesn't //seem// too
controversial
- {T90914}
- We hope to give @cscott some time to move this one forward, but we
may not
have time to make much progress on this one.
We've also tentatively set up {E74} for a few hours after this meeting.
EVENT DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68
EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/
To: RobLa-WMF, cscott, ArchCom Cc: cscott, tstarling, GWicke, devunt, daniel, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm
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-- *Sherah Smith* UX Engineer Wikimedia Foundation 206-660-6585 sherahsmith.com donate.wikipedia.org
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Sherah Smith ssmith@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have spoken to the UX standardization team and they will be representing at the RFC later this afternoon. We are eager to help and be included in the process as early as possible. Thank you for reaching out.
Thanks Sherah for doing this, and thanks May for representing the team!
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, May Tee-Galloway mgalloway@wikimedia.org wrote:
I don't think every designer has made the transition to Phabricator. We can try to configure a tag for Design RFCs on Phab and designers can pass the news around to relevant members. Otherwise an email like this is best.
I've filed T114296: Figure out tag for #MediaWiki-RFCs that need design/UX tagging https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114296as a way of tracking our discussion about this.
More generally, we need to figure out how to get Design team representation in the Architecture Committee, but I'm not going to threadjack for that. :-) I'm about to go on vacation until the last week of October, so maybe I'll fire up a separate thread if that issue is still lingering when I get back.
Rob
Hej hej,
On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 15:18 -0700, Rob Lanphier wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, May Tee-Galloway wrote:
I don't think every designer has made the transition to Phabricator. We can try to configure a tag for Design RFCs on Phab and designers can pass the news around to relevant members. Otherwise an email like this is best.
I've filed T114296: Figure out tag for #MediaWiki-RFCs that need design/UX taggingas a way of tracking our discussion about this.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114296%C2%A0got closed as existing https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/design/%C2%A0 seems to be sufficient. (If it isn't: Comment on T114296.)
Cheers, andre
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM, C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org wrote:
In a similar vein: is design@lists.wikimedia.org a good place for email discussion of design issues? I was actually suggesting to Rob that T90914 be discussed in *next week's* meeting, since I wanted to kick off discussion from a design perspective via email first and let people have their say. I'll do that in a follow-up email to design@; let me know if there's a better forum for that. --scott
I think it is. It's not a high traffic mailing list, but you'll get pretty good precision and recall in terms of your target audience by posting there.
J
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
@cscott pointed out that in our next RfC meeting on IRC (happening later today) it would be great to have some design/UX input.
The specific task we're talking through is T90914: Provide semantic wiki-configurable styles for media display
The IRC meeting we're talking about is E68: RFC Meeting on
#wikimedia-office
IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC)(today at 2pm PDT). We already doubt that
any
final decisions will be made at this, but getting your input on this
today
should be extremely helpful for moving things along.
From a Phab perspective, I would like to generally tag RfCs that need
design
input, but I don't know what the best way of doing that. What tag
should we
use to make you aware of RfCs that should have design/UX input? If there isn't a tag that's a good fit, could we figure out a tag we should create for this purpose?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cscott no-reply@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Subject: [Calendar] E68: RFC Meeting on #wikimedia-office IRC channel (2015-09-30 UTC) To: robla@wikimedia.org
cscott added a subscriber: cscott. cscott added a comment.
@RobLa-WMF: I'd like to get some designers' input on T90914, I don't
know if
they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. So I'd prefer
to
have good advance notice, and publicize the meeting via email involving
the
design team, etc.
EVENT DESCRIPTION Location: #wikimedia-office IRC channel Time: 2015-09-30, Wednesday 21:00 UTC
- {T112553}
- @GWicke is eager to move this one forward, and doesn't //seem// too
controversial
- {T90914}
- We hope to give @cscott some time to move this one forward, but we may
not
have time to make much progress on this one.
We've also tentatively set up {E74} for a few hours after this meeting.
EVENT DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E68
EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/
To: RobLa-WMF, cscott, ArchCom Cc: cscott, tstarling, GWicke, devunt, daniel, Jay8g, bd808, Legoktm
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