Well for one thing, "describe _what_ you changed" is already incorrect
of course. The changes are already visible to the patrollers in the
diff. What we usually want people to describe is WHY they made the
change ("The birth year was incorrect/not yet present").
Also, I think that this is really one of those areas that can benefit
from "Getting started" tutorials to just SHOW people what we expect of
them. As the folks from Google say; it's much easier to teach people
new behavior then is often assumed, as long as you give examples.
DJ
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
Hi,
I wondered where to raise this and decided to do it here.
The message that asks for to write the edit summary in VisualEditor is
"Describe what you changed".
In the source editor it's just "Summary" in the core. In the English
Wikipedia, however, it's modified to "[[Help:Edit summary|Edit summary]]
(Briefly describe the changes you have made)".
The VisualEditor is used a lot by new editors (it's an impression, but I'm
pretty sure that the data will say the same). The idea of the edit summary
is to help the people who patrol recent changes or read the article history.
When new editors, who aren't so familiar with Wikipedia's edit summary
culture, are asked to "Describe what you changed", they may answer: "the
year when he was born". This is a correct answer as far as the editor is
concerned, but it's not so helpful in the context of recent changes.
I don't know about other languages, but this actually happens quite a lot in
the Hebrew Wikipedia, and some patrollers are complaining about it. (In
grammatical terms, the summary is written as a direct object: "Describe what
you changed" -> (I changed) "the year".)
Now I could change this to something clearer in the translation to this
particular language, but I like to be thorough when it comes to UI messages,
so I'd like to ask the pros here: How would you design the edit summary box?
The requirements I can think of are:
1. Encourage the user to actually write the edit summary. People not writing
summaries at all is a bigger problem than writing them not clearly as I
wrote above.
2. Encourage to write it in a way that would be useful to the people who
will read them in Recent Changes and in reviewing previous article versions.
3. Possibly give the users tips about how to write them well, but without
too much additional text.
Thanks!
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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