What about taking Brandon's idea but keeping them close to eachother and
short:
[edit] [s]
or
[edit | s]
It's as short as you can get while keeping the primacy of 'edit'. Also,
the letter 's' makes sense for either 'source' or 'section'.
No idea what basic usability/design conventions that breaks, but I imagine
2 small icons won't be much more intuitive than a letter with a tooltip.
Alternately, with Erik's idea:
[edit] [<>]
In any case, as a reader, and even just as an editor I think the
distraction of the animation makes the clutter tradeoff worth making.
Cheers,
Jake Orlowitz
Wikipedia: Ocaasi <http://enwp.org/User:Ocaasi>
I droped some drafts here :
https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Psychoslave/edit_emphase
Le 2013-07-26 12:06, Mathieu Stumpf a écrit :
> Le 2013-07-26 11:13, Matthew Flaschen a écrit :
>> We need to be careful we're not de-emphasizing the edit link, when
>> we
>> want to increase participation. "text + icon" would probably be
>> more
>> noticeable than text alone, but I'm not sure an icon alone is more
>> noticeable than text in this case.
>
> Then we may have an "edit toolbar" which would be fixed on the right
> of the page, would that be be an enough discret emphase?
>>
>> Matt Flaschen
>>
>>
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Flagging this bug for the folks on this list:
"Make Wikipedia distinct by styling of a prominent UI feature differently
than the default"
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51912
To be clear, I know about ongoing work to develop and implement visual
identity guidelines. The bug above is related but much narrower in scope,
referring specifically to a problem incurred as a side-effect of the
popularity of MediaWiki as a platform.
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It has always concerned me that all the Wikimedia wikis look the same.
The main concern here is the majority of wiki's based on MediaWiki
thus look associated. I remember 5 years ago I used to think that
WikiTravel was a Wikimedia project because the branding was so
similar.
I can imagine MediaWiki.org using the default skin would be of value
for attracting new users by making this distinction but has there ever
been talk about configuring a different skin (even slightly different
- say something as simple as colour scheme) for Wikimedia projects?
Personally I'd love to see every project have it's own skin and own
way of expressing itself. Am I alone here in this desire?
People interested in the design of Wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Dispa…
"The issue of concern is the extent to which infoboxes are becoming
generally less efficient in fulfilling the function for which they were
initially introduced. I believe it is time to reconsider the tendency
towards overdetailing that has developed in recent years, and to look
for a new approach."
Discussion probably belongs on the discussion section of that page or in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Infoboxes .
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This is a more a design discussion.. so forwarding to design mailing list.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Separate note, but what do people think about having a bigger "Sign Up"
> button when Login is presented? Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, Flickr,
> LinkedIn, and Amazon.com are doing it on their mobile sites (gating as a
> driver varies by site). Ebay, and Youtube, which uses the same entry point
> as Gmail, don't. I guess this is an interesting area for A/B tests, which
> maybe have already been done.
Why?
Personally I think it's okay to use javascript for editing interfaces.
Visual Editor already does this as does the default mobile editing experience.
As long as the page is readable with javascript disabled I think this
is more than acceptable (although others may disagree).
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Pragun Bhutani <pragun06(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I also like the way the data entities look and feel on Pau's design. I think
> it more usable than the other way, especially if you consider editing. Once
> the edit switch has been enabled, the cards could maybe turn to a different
> color or have a dotted boundary, or some other way that conveys the new
> affordance.
>
> But the problem is, I have to keep javascript use to a minimum.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> I like the visual treatment of treating data entities as 'cards' and
>> the + icon on Pau's design - although that said since the text is not
>> fixed there would be issues ensuring they all have the same size
>> without resorting to javascript in some way.
>>
>> I think it would be good if editing the edit switch flipped the cards
>> over (maybe with a css transition) and made them all editable. Could
>> be a really nice javascript based editor...
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Pau Giner <pginer(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Pragun,
>> >
>> > The mockups look good. I noticed that editing actions are put first in
>> > comparison to content. Since Wikidata is already quite dense in terms of
>> > data (which is expected), adding actions for each piece of data may
>> > crowd
>> > the UI too much.
>> >
>> > I explored some ideas to reduce the density of actions and content:
>> >
>> > Display information first and provide editing actions in a separate
>> > detail
>> > view. In the current mockup you can edit a statement such as "main
>> > type",
>> > modify its value and add more sources (all from the top-level view).
>> > Alternatively, in a simplified top-level view you can just show the
>> > information, and allow edit actions once the user accesses to it.
>> > Allow for richer content. The current format is text based. Statements
>> > can
>> > be represented in a way that allow for images to be used.
>> >
>> >
>> > I created a couple of mockups to illustrate the ideas:
>> >
>> > Mockup 1
>> > Mockup 2 (with additional actions)
>> >
>> >
>> > Note that:
>> >
>> > The description of the item is grouped together. At a detail view the
>> > user
>> > can chose which parts to edit. For the case when some part is missing,
>> > it
>> > may be considered to make the indicator of the lacking information into
>> > a
>> > call to action for editing such element.
>> > I also used text statements but the layout of the statements also allows
>> > to
>> > fit an image if it was the case.
>> >
>> >
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Pau
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I should clarify something here, since it was pointed out to me
>> >> that this came across as curt -
>> >>
>> >> Quite the opposite. I'm super-duper happy for this change and
>> >> glad to see it coming about. I think it looks great and will do
>> >> exactly
>> >> what we want.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It's about time. I've been hoping for this change for over a
>> >> > year.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Just a heads up - the skin for mobile will be slightly changing soon
>> >> >> to move the star under the title. This may effect some of your
>> >> >> design
>> >> >> around the title element.
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
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>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
>> >>
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Thought the Design list might want to look at these mockups.
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Hello,
I've been working on UI Mockups for Wikidata Mobile as a part of my GSoC
Project, Mobilize Wikidata. I have 2 mockups uploaded so far and I would
appreciate some feedback!
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pragunbhutani/GSoC_2013_Implementation_A…
Cheers,
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Hi Oliver,
So glad you like the new Thanks icon!
We're all very grateful to Mun May Tee-Galloway for her lovely new design : )
A screenshot is attached, and you can see it in action on MediaWiki.org. Should be deployed to enwiki shortly.
I will post about it on next Thursday, after our next Echo auto-deployment.
Thank you, May!
Fabrice
On Jul 12, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> Who is responsible for changing the heart to a smiley face? Guillaume and I owe them an alcoholic or non-alcoholic drink of their choice.
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