WikiVoyage has a small but clever extension to do quicker lookup of pages in additional content namespaces if no namespace prefix is provided. So if we used this for Commons, and configured "Category:" as an extra lookup namespace, you could type "Low quality chemical diagrams" and it'd pull up the category of that name immediately without the full-text search being loaded. This appears to basically be another solution to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11380
The drawback is that it doesn't play nice with autocompletion and other API consumers yet. Ideally I suspect you'd want autcompletion to do lookup in multiple namespaces as well, and provide subtle namespace hinting (as oposed to prefixing) in the dropdown, like so (where CATEGORY would be in a smaller font).
[ Low ] Low quality chemical diagrams CATEGORY Lower Saxony
Thoughts? Would this be a useful improvement for Commons in particular, even without autocompletion? I suspect it could help reduce some of the category/gallery pain.
I can imagine it being amazingly useful (particularly with autocompletion, but even without...). Alternatively, given the major role categories play for Commons compared to most mediawiki projects, is it possible to simply enable searching the category: namespace by default?
- Andrew.
On Friday, 2 November 2012, Erik Moeller wrote:
WikiVoyage has a small but clever extension to do quicker lookup of pages in additional content namespaces if no namespace prefix is provided. So if we used this for Commons, and configured "Category:" as an extra lookup namespace, you could type "Low quality chemical diagrams" and it'd pull up the category of that name immediately without the full-text search being loaded. This appears to basically be another solution to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11380
The drawback is that it doesn't play nice with autocompletion and other API consumers yet. Ideally I suspect you'd want autcompletion to do lookup in multiple namespaces as well, and provide subtle namespace hinting (as oposed to prefixing) in the dropdown, like so (where CATEGORY would be in a smaller font).
[ Low ] Low quality chemical diagrams CATEGORY Lower Saxony
Thoughts? Would this be a useful improvement for Commons in particular, even without autocompletion? I suspect it could help reduce some of the category/gallery pain.
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On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
I can imagine it being amazingly useful (particularly with autocompletion, but even without...). Alternatively, given the major role categories play for Commons compared to most mediawiki projects, is it possible to simply enable searching the category: namespace by default?
It's already in the default search mask, so categories and other default search namespaces will come up in fulltext search (your own user preferences may be different, but that's the behavior for new or logged out users) -- but the instant lookup (what used to be the "Go" button) only works on the main namespace, or if you provide the namespace prefix/alias.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
I can imagine it being amazingly useful (particularly with autocompletion, but even without...). Alternatively, given the major role categories play for Commons compared to most mediawiki projects, is it possible to simply enable searching the category: namespace by default?
It's already in the default search mask, so categories and other default search namespaces will come up in fulltext search (your own user preferences may be different, but that's the behavior for new or logged out users) -- but the instant lookup (what used to be the "Go" button) only works on the main namespace, or if you provide the namespace prefix/alias.
See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30323
-- Krinkle
WikiVoyage has a small but clever extension to do quicker lookup of pages in additional content namespaces if no namespace prefix is provided. So if we used this for Commons, and configured "Category:" as an extra lookup namespace, you could type "Low quality chemical diagrams" and it'd pull up the category of that name immediately without the full-text search being loaded.
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Thoughts? Would this be a useful improvement for Commons in particular, even without autocompletion? I suspect it could help reduce some of the category/gallery pain.
This sounds like a very good addition, yes.
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Cheers, Ryan Kaldari
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
In response to the recent freedom of panorama-related DMCA take-downs on Commons, I've started http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_**panorama_campaignhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama_campaign
If you have any interest in this issue, please stop by and share your ideas.
Cheers, Ryan Kaldari
Can we get Google into it? Or at least learned how they solved the FOP
issue with the Street View (even if they got around it using Fair Use, they will probably be interested in this).
— Victor.
Am 06.11.2012 22:30, schrieb Jean-Frédéric:
WikiVoyage has a small but clever extension to do quicker lookup of pages in additional content namespaces if no namespace prefix is provided. So if we used this for Commons, and configured "Category:" as an extra lookup namespace, you could type "Low quality chemical diagrams" and it'd pull up the category of that name immediately without the full-text search being loaded. […] Thoughts? Would this be a useful improvement for Commons in particular, even without autocompletion? I suspect it could help reduce some of the category/gallery pain.This sounds like a very good addition, yes.
+1. I often go directly to a category and every time typing "category:" is annoying.
Raimond.
Raimond Spekking, 12/11/2012 09:09:
Am 06.11.2012 22:30, schrieb Jean-Frédéric:
WikiVoyage has a small but clever extension to do quicker lookup of pages in additional content namespaces if no namespace prefix is provided. So if we used this for Commons, and configured "Category:" as an extra lookup namespace, you could type "Low quality chemical diagrams" and it'd pull up the category of that name immediately without the full-text search being loaded. […] Thoughts? Would this be a useful improvement for Commons in particular, even without autocompletion? I suspect it could help reduce some of the category/gallery pain.This sounds like a very good addition, yes.
+1. I often go directly to a category and every time typing "category:" is annoying.
Indeed. Erik, should an extension setup request on bugzilla be opened? (One could as well ask it to be merged to core/MWSearch/TitleKey/whatever.)
Nemo
Nemo opened the request on bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43329
And the discussion on WIkimedia Commons is opened < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Enabling_S...