Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis support for the HTML5 <video> element has landed in Firefox Minefield nightlies (3.1a2-pre). This is *big news* because it means a standard way of displaying video in web browsers will be available to all without being stuck with Flash. And Theora is the only accepted format on Wikimedia Commons.
See: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-July/045036.html http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=492 http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2008/07/theora-video-backend-for-firefox-landed...
What we need is people to test this. So please download a copy of Minefield, test it thoroughly on Wikimedia Commons video, beat on it, thrash it, report bugs. There's plenty.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video
You need to load the video, click "More …" and it'll give you the option. Wikimedia would very much like to make it a first option rather than a last one, but first it needs to be better (more functional and stable) than loading Cortado with Java.
Apple and Nokia tried some truly disgusting FUD around the topic and successfully got the words "Vorbis" and "Theora" taken out of the HTML5 spec, but Firefox adoption means 20% of Web users in short order. So we can leave them to play catchup per business needs. "You got a Nokia? No wonder you can't watch that Wikipedia video, Nokias suck."
- d.
2008/7/31 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis support for the HTML5 <video> element has landed in Firefox Minefield nightlies (3.1a2-pre). This is *big news* because it means a standard way of displaying video in web browsers will be available to all without being stuck with Flash. And Theora is the only accepted format on Wikimedia Commons.
In the Slashdot firehose:
http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=801729
Please click the little "+" button!
- d.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis support for the HTML5 <video> element has landed in Firefox Minefield nightlies (3.1a2-pre). This is *big news* because it means a standard way of displaying video in web browsers will be available to all without being stuck with Flash. And Theora is the only accepted format on Wikimedia Commons.
See: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-July/045036.html http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=492 http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2008/07/theora-video-backend-for-firefox-landed...
What we need is people to test this. So please download a copy of Minefield, test it thoroughly on Wikimedia Commons video, beat on it, thrash it, report bugs. There's plenty.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video
You need to load the video, click "More …" and it'll give you the option. Wikimedia would very much like to make it a first option rather than a last one, but first it needs to be better (more functional and stable) than loading Cortado with Java.
It doesn't.
I go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Central_Reclamation_Phase_3_-_2008-0... and click on the play button. I get
* Download file Use player: * Cortado (Java) (selected) * Still image only
Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008072303 Minefield/3.1a1pre
Magnus
2008/8/1 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Central_Reclamation_Phase_3_-_2008-0... and click on the play button. I get
- Download file
Use player:
- Cortado (Java) (selected)
- Still image only
Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008072303 Minefield/3.1a1pre
That would be because you need 3.1a2pre, not 3.1a1pre.
- d.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2008/8/1 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Central_Reclamation_Phase_3_-_2008-0... and click on the play button. I get
- Download file
Use player:
- Cortado (Java) (selected)
- Still image only
Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008072303 Minefield/3.1a1pre
That would be because you need 3.1a2pre, not 3.1a1pre.
Ah, damn, I didn't see they put a1 and a2 in the same directory.
Works nicely under a2 so far. Needs a seek bar, eventually...
Magnus
2008/8/1 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2008/8/1 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
I go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Central_Reclamation_Phase_3_-_2008-0... and click on the play button. I get
- Download file
Use player:
- Cortado (Java) (selected)
- Still image only
Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008072303 Minefield/3.1a1pre
That would be because you need 3.1a2pre, not 3.1a1pre.
Ah, damn, I didn't see they put a1 and a2 in the same directory.
Yes, it is annoying ...
Works nicely under a2 so far. Needs a seek bar, eventually...
File a bug. Perhaps it can become a most-duplicated ;-)
- d.
[adding wikien-l back to cc:]
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:24 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2008/8/1 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
Works nicely under a2 so far. Needs a seek bar, eventually...
File a bug. Perhaps it can become a most-duplicated ;-)
:-)
Bug for us: Audio files seem to be treated as video as well (?), which causes the play button to disappear after a moment, and no way of pausing/stopping it. Or is that the real audio component, but broken?
Magnus
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:24 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Works nicely under a2 so far. Needs a seek bar, eventually...
File a bug. Perhaps it can become a most-duplicated ;-)
Video tag is intended to be automated via JS. The using website can build their own controls.