On behalf of a user who asked a question on Commons:
Question about [[s:en:Template:PD-UN]] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/en:Template:PD-UN and its Chinese and French versions hereto. When Wikisource was a multilingual site accepting all languages, it had so many UN Security Council resolutions posted by various users unaware of UN copyright. As the UN Headquarters is subject to the same USA laws, works published there are copyrighted in the same way as works published in the USA.
Works published in the USA between 1978 and 1 March 1989 without copyright notices and without subsequent copyright registrations are in the public domain in the USA, but should subsequent copyright registrations be validly made, the works become copyrighted. I would like to ask if these works are acceptable here. This is critical as most, if not all, images at [[:Category:Stamps of United Nations]] may be indeed copyrighted.
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I thought I ask at the mailinglist, see if anyone can provide an answer...
/ Fred-Chess
Fredrik Josefsson wrote:
On behalf of a user who asked a question on Commons:
Question about [[s:en:Template:PD-UN]] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/en:Template:PD-UN and its Chinese and French versions hereto. When Wikisource was a multilingual site accepting all languages, it had so many UN Security Council resolutions posted by various users unaware of UN copyright. As the UN Headquarters is subject to the same USA laws
How so? The headquarters are in extraterritorial territory.
On 10/23/06, Fredrik Josefsson fred_chessplayer@yahoo.se wrote:
On behalf of a user who asked a question on Commons:
Question about [[s:en:Template:PD-UN]] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/en:Template:PD-UN and its Chinese and French versions hereto. When Wikisource was a multilingual site accepting all languages, it had so many UN Security Council resolutions posted by various users unaware of UN copyright. As the UN Headquarters is subject to the same USA laws, works published there are copyrighted in the same way as works published in the USA.
Works published in the USA between 1978 and 1 March 1989 without copyright notices and without subsequent copyright registrations are in the public domain in the USA, but should subsequent copyright registrations be validly made, the works become copyrighted. I would like to ask if these works are acceptable here. This is critical as most, if not all, images at [[:Category:Stamps of United Nations]] may be indeed copyrighted.
I thought I ask at the mailinglist, see if anyone can provide an answer...
/ Fred-Chess
This basically seems to be saying that the UN's materials are subject to US copyright laws. Which means they don't really fall into a special copyright category and should be treated as any other copyrighted material (and we probably shouldn't have a PD-UN template, which implies that UN material is uniquely PD for any particular reason, in the way that works of the U.S. federal government are PD).
The UN seems to consider themselves a regular copyright holder as well (http://www.un.org/copyright.htm), which I admit somewhat surprises me (I guess they just want the right to control it, since I doubt they are trying to turn a profit). In any cases, the reasoning on the template looks correct, but all it basically says is "this isn't PD unless it is PD for some other reason", which probably means that the template is misleading at best for most people.
FF