Angela announced that Wikia has released http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ImageTagging/ demo: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sydney_for_image_tagging_demo.jpg
Magnus has a somewhat similar thing via Javascript http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:ImageBoxes.js .
I find Magnus' more intuitive in that you mouseover the image to see the boxes, rather than mousing over the names of the annotations.
But they are both a bit problematic in that they don't record the edit action in any standard way. You don't know who added or removed any annotation, there's no history, no ability to revert. If someone added an offensive tag to many images there'd be no way to even find out which images they tagged - would there?
cheers, Brianna
On Nov 18, 2007 12:08 AM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
But they are both a bit problematic in that they don't record the edit action in any standard way.
There is now a tag log which shows up in recent changes. You can sort this by user, so if there's a problem user adding tags, you can see what they've done. eg - http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/tag
There are still improvements that would be useful. For example, the image history doesn't make a record of changed tags.
Angela
On Nov 17, 2007 1:08 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
Angela announced that Wikia has released http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ImageTagging/ demo: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sydney_for_image_tagging_demo.jpg
Magnus has a somewhat similar thing via Javascript http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:ImageBoxes.js .
I find Magnus' more intuitive in that you mouseover the image to see the boxes, rather than mousing over the names of the annotations.
But they are both a bit problematic in that they don't record the edit action in any standard way. You don't know who added or removed any annotation, there's no history, no ability to revert. If someone added an offensive tag to many images there'd be no way to even find out which images they tagged - would there?
My solution handles the tags as normal edits, that is, adding a template.
You actually have to do the edit yourself at the moment, after copying the template text from a dialog box. I meant to automate this, but since there was little enthusiasm by the community, I put it on the back burner.
There is also a design issue to be decided. Should tags be * exclusively category names, as it is now * normal links to all namespaces (requires typing "category", and can be followed only through "what links here" from non-category pages) * exclusively category names with a special prefix (like "Bee" could become "Category:Tag:Bee")
The third possiblity would separate the tags from our "normal" system. Is that what we want? I don't know. The second one is great for image-to-page links (click on the box in the image and go to a gallery or category), but bad for the other direction ("what articles have tags "flower" and "bee"?).
Maybe a combination of 1&2 or 2&3 is the answer.
Cheers, Magnus
On 17/11/2007, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
Angela announced that Wikia has released http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ImageTagging/ demo: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sydney_for_image_tagging_demo.jpg
Magnus has a somewhat similar thing via Javascript http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:ImageBoxes.js .
I find Magnus' more intuitive in that you mouseover the image to see the boxes, rather than mousing over the names of the annotations.
But they are both a bit problematic in that they don't record the edit action in any standard way. You don't know who added or removed any annotation, there's no history, no ability to revert. If someone added an offensive tag to many images there'd be no way to even find out which images they tagged - would there?
Sorry if this question is presumptuous, but is it certain that this tool doesn't violate any patents held by Facebook, Inc.?
On Nov 17, 2007 3:15 PM, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry if this question is presumptuous, but is it certain that this tool doesn't violate any patents held by Facebook, Inc.?
Flickr has a similar "notes" tool where you can drag a box around an area of the photo and type in a note of some sort - I'm sure the idea of adding boxes with info to images is not new, and unless we directly copied Facebook's coding for their version I don't think we're violating any copyrights or patents. This is just my opinion though, I haven't done any research on the subject...
-Ayelie (Editor at Large)
On 17/11/2007, Ayelie ayelie.at.large@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 17, 2007 3:15 PM, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry if this question is presumptuous, but is it certain that this tool doesn't violate any patents held by Facebook, Inc.?
Flickr has a similar "notes" tool where you can drag a box around an area of the photo and type in a note of some sort - I'm sure the idea of adding boxes with info to images is not new, and unless we directly copied Facebook's coding for their version I don't think we're violating any copyrights or patents. This is just my opinion though, I haven't done any research on the subject...
I didn't know Flickr had a similar tool, which probably clears up my question :)
On 17/11/2007, Ayelie ayelie.at.large@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 17, 2007 3:15 PM, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry if this question is presumptuous, but is it certain that this tool doesn't violate any patents held by Facebook, Inc.?
Flickr has a similar "notes" tool where you can drag a box around an area of the photo and type in a note of some sort - I'm sure the idea of adding boxes with info to images is not new, and unless we directly copied Facebook's coding for their version I don't think we're violating any copyrights or patents. This is just my opinion though, I haven't done any research on the subject...
Flickr runs a version of Fotonotes: