------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:22:37 +0100 (BST) From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [Commons-l] Commons search function vs. Google To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <1318346557.48784.YahooMailNeo(a)web29620.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We are wondering on Meta[1]?what criteria the Commons search function uses to establish the order of search results displayed. To give some examples, searching for "pearl necklace" in Commons shows a woman with sperm on her neck as the first image result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=… The same image is way down in a Google search (with safe search off) for pearl necklace on Commons: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cucumber+site:commons.wikimedia.org&um… .,cf.osb&biw=1111&bih=774&uss=1#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=pearl+necklace+site: commons.wikimedia.org&oq=pearl+necklace+site:commons.wikimedia.org &aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=113279l114967l0l115854l14l11l0l0l0l8l261l2003l0.8.3l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=49f703222a617ec&biw=1111&bih=774 Searching for "electric toothbrushes" in Commons shows a woman masturbating with a toothbrush as the second image result: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=… The same image turns up in Google as well (with safe search switched off), though not as one of the first results: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cucumber+site:commons.wikimedia.org&um… .,cf.osb&biw=1111&bih=774&uss=1#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=electric+toothbrushes+site: commons.wikimedia.org&pbx=1&oq=electric+toothbrushes+site: commons.wikimedia.org &aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=341351l344565l0l345961l21l19l0l0l0l13l255l3528l0.11.8l19l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=49f703222a617ec&biw=1111&bih=774 Searching for "cucumber" in Commons shows a woman with a cucumber up her vagina on the first page of search results: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=… Doing a Google search for cucumber on Commons (with safe search off) does not bring this image up among the first hundred or so results: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cucumber+site:commons.wikimedia.org&um… .,cf.osb&biw=1111&bih=774&uss=1 Why is our listing so different from the one in Google, and why are sexual images so much higher up in our listing of search results? Andreas [1]?http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Controversial_content/Brainstorming?