On 09/10/2007, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/10/2007, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> The fact that Wikipedia (at least en:wp) is
pretty much mainstream -
> news stories now tend to be about something happening on Wikipedia,
> rather than the mere dancing-bear fact of its existence - actually
> works for us to a great extent. "Release your stuff! If you hate
> Wikipedia, it's still available for Citizendium." etc.
Those stories are still in the IT/technology section.
Or the educational section. Or, in the Guardian, the main editorial.
> This is why getting those people to think of
releasing material as
> proper free content (rather than free-as-in-beer, the equivalent of
> CC-by-nc-nd) would be such a win. Corruption from within with the FREE
> virus!
This involves getting the average person to think
about copyright. Not
really going to work.
I was talking about the culture industries. Turning them around will
involve exploding many, many heads, one by one ...
Getting them to help with access to PD stuff is more
reasonable but
well lets have a look at some of the traditional groups:
Local Libraries. Getting better more of them have scanners. But then
they put them on a different floor to the archives. A start I suppose.
The British library. Waste of time. Insist on doing any scanning
themselves and charge a fortune.
Imperial war museum. Same as the British library.
British museum. If it is on display fine otherwise well. You might be
able to take photos of some stuff in the reserve collect by
appointment but anything else you have to pay them to take a photo
which they release to you under a very limited license.
National trust. If you want to take photos inside you have to contact
the one person who appears to have permission to allow that and they
don't appear to be set up to deal with anyone below the level of a
film company.
English Heritage helpful but a lot of the collections that would be
useful appear to have been broken up and spread around the country.
The owners of Conditionally Exempt Works of Art only have to allow
viewing not photography:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/heritage/rights.htm
University libraries vary.
Yeah. We're attempting to turn around a whole way of thinking here.
Which is why I think getting publicists to think that properly
free-licensed content is normal for any purpose whatsoever would be a
major win.
- d.