On 8/23/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The trouble is making sure both work well.
We really need the cross-wiki links to where images are used. That's what pisses people off - having stuff just vanish.
It's true. ... plus the ability to see historical data. We could do a lot better in that regard. We should. We must.. and in time, we will.
But in this case it won't help: the people who are being very negative in that thread are people who are mad at commons because we deleted images which were permitted for Wiki(p|m)edia use only, or with other clear copyright related problems. (They don't state that on the WP:ANI, but it's clear from their histories on commons). Since our unwillingness to accept Wik(p|m)edia use only image is completely non-negotiable, we're just not going to make those people happy.
I spent a considerable amount of time talking to the person on enwp who didn't want his images on commons. He was only ever to substantiate his position with two arguments:
(1) He can't watchlist pages on commons from Enwp so he misses changes. When it was pointed out to him that you can enable commons to email you on watchlist updates, his response was "why should I have to?".
(2) He believes that commons is nothing more than a repository of penis images. He wasn't swayed by people pointing out that there are plenty of penis images on enwp too, and that commons has 1.75 millon images quite a few of which aren't penises.
I won't comment on (2)... but (1) is a real, if exceptionally minor point, We should add cross-projcet watchlists to our feature wishlist... to be completely sometime between SUL and the first snowstorm in hell. ;)