On 8/23/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The trouble is making sure both work well.
We really need the cross-wiki links to where images are used. That's
what pisses people off - having stuff just vanish.
It's true. ... plus the ability to see historical data. We could do a
lot better in that regard. We should. We must.. and in time, we will.
But in this case it won't help: the people who are being very negative
in that thread are people who are mad at commons because we deleted
images which were permitted for Wiki(p|m)edia use only, or with other
clear copyright related problems. (They don't state that on the
WP:ANI, but it's clear from their histories on commons). Since our
unwillingness to accept Wik(p|m)edia use only image is completely
non-negotiable, we're just not going to make those people happy.
I spent a considerable amount of time talking to the person on enwp
who didn't want his images on commons. He was only ever to
substantiate his position with two arguments:
(1) He can't watchlist pages on commons from Enwp so he misses
changes. When it was pointed out to him that you can enable commons to
email you on watchlist updates, his response was "why should I have
to?".
(2) He believes that commons is nothing more than a repository of
penis images. He wasn't swayed by people pointing out that there are
plenty of penis images on enwp too, and that commons has 1.75 millon
images quite a few of which aren't penises.
I won't comment on (2)... but (1) is a real, if exceptionally minor
point, We should add cross-projcet watchlists to our feature
wishlist... to be completely sometime between SUL and the first
snowstorm in hell. ;)