Personally, I would prefer that people pursue freedom of panorama before
we pursue "freedom of deep space objects". The later I would put pretty
far down the priority list, actually. How about the following agenda:
1. Freedom of orphaned works
2. Freedom of panorama in U.S.
3. Get Library of Congress to digitize all U.S. copyright records
4. Get U.S. to apply rule of the shorter term
5. Get U.K. to officially kill sweat of the brow
6. Repeal database rights in EU
7. Repeal Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act
8. Fix absurd copyright terms in Mexico
9. Get works by U.S. states added to public domain
10. Freedom of deep space objects
On 9/17/12 6:22 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
Where is the onwiki discussion about this? I could find ''
Or a wikipedia page that describes the copyright status of imagery of
sent from Galaxy Note
On Sep 15, 2012 1:25 PM, "??????" <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com
I am not seeking legal advice. I am asking the pursuit of the
issue. I am
not a US citizen so I do not have a congress person to contact.
governing copyright can be amended to address the issue of deep space
objects (DSO). I do not expect a result next week, I merely want
to enter into an agenda of some sort. If the Foundation is going
the lead, this probably would only be possible through a board
such a case I want to work with people to come up with such a draft
proposal to the board.
I realize this is an unusual request but there seems to be a lack of
clarity on this issue. Argument is that copyright can be an
not every organization observing or assisting NASA's observations are
PD-USgov compatible. We may be forced to permanently delete all
objects as a result.
I'd like to provide a short technical explanation why copyright
space objects or DSOs (objects outside of the solar system) are
meaningless. For ordinary photographs copyright is determined by
such as lighting, perspective, exposure and other such settings that
creates a different image of the same object. You can distinguish the
difference between a daylight photo and an evening photo.
With deep space objects however, even the stellar parallax
has a very
small value. The closest object outside of the solar system is
years (268,136 AU's) away. The semi-major axis of earth is about
difference in perspective is like looking at a 2cm (width of a
object 5.3km (3.29 miles) away and the perspective difference is
left eye to the right eye. We lack scientific instruments to even
stellar parallax for objects much further. In other words our
of the nearest star and beyond is more or less constant and the
themselves look the same for hundreds of years.
So any photo of a deep space object I or someone else takes from the
solar system will look identical regardless of when and where on
take it within multiple lifetimes. I think this can bring legal
for us to either disregard any copyright claim or at least pursue
in congress to amend the copyright law to make an exception in the
People who worked with congress such as Neil Degrasse Tyson could be
consulted to this end. Also international treaties can be
this end as copyrighting photos of deep space objects could be
as an unfair exploitation of resources.
I realize this reads like something out of Star Trek but this is
to be quite a problem as we see more and more weird copyright
when dealing with NASA which traditionally had a PD-USgov
regularly contracts its more recent projects and to be fair we do
how NASA contracts these projects which could potentially lead
to legitimate copyright claims in the future.
-- ?????? (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
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