I agree there is a logical fallacy in the original argument. That, however, is no reason to bring up an irrelevant debate about a hotly disputed topic. I certainly didn't get the suggestion we should disregard the original argument due to it allegedly being racist out of what you said, and I doubt many people did. Either way, I'm sure commons community members will not vote based on racist comments.
On Dec 6, 2007 2:55 PM, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/12/2007, Yonatan Horan yonatanh@gmail.com wrote:
No, they are irrelevant. Regardless of my views on the images at hand
(and
no, I don't think they should be deleted altogether), nobody cares if
you
think Zionism = racism and it has nothing to do with whether we should
or
shouldn't keep these images.
The original poster opened with "The page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon in commons includes racist cartoons against a representative of the Jewish nation, and thus, against the Jewish people themselves."
To state that cartoons against the representatives of "the Jewish nation" is "against the Jewish people themselves" is a statement of racism. I wouldn't make the point that Zionism=racism if it weren't relevant to the discussion. The point really isn't that Zionism=racism, the point is that these comments in particular are racist.
I didn't state that we should keep/delete the photos because Zionism=racism, I suggested we shouldn't allow the racism of those comments to influence this discussion or our decision.
-- Oldak Quill (oldakquill@gmail.com)
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