Good news. I received an email back from Catherine Draycott who is the Head of Wellcome Images. She said that they were very much interested in uploading Wellcome's CC-BY images to the Commons, and suggested we talk on the phone. I was going to suggest that we:
a) get the project described at [1]
b) coordinate work here on commons-l
c) talk to the GLAMToolset [2] folks who have been working with Europeana and other GLAM organizations to bulk upload images
d) think about how Wellcome's Wikipedia in Residence [3] could help facilitate the upload
Does that sound like a reasonable way to proceed? If anyone else would like to be on the call let me know. If there is a Commons veteran who has experience with bulk uploading and is willing to work with the Wellcome Trust in a constructive way I’m willing to just tag along on the call and let them take the reigns as it were.
//Ed
PS. Congratulations on the wedding Liam :-D
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMToolset_project
[3] https://cancer-research-uk-jobs.tal.net/vx/appcentre-External/brand-2/candi…
On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I see this was also announced on the WM-UK blog - http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/01/wellcome-images-freely-releases-100000…
> I've copied in Jonathan who is the WMUK GLAM coordinator in case he's had any involvement in Wellcome's announcement. Perhaps he can lend insight?
>
> I've worked on quite a few image-release negotiations and it is possible that this has been done this way through honest mistake, through justifed fears, through meddling of the legal/marketing departments.... I quite like Andy Mabbett's comment on Wellcome's blog announcement, sums up the problems (legal and technological) quite well in my opinion:
>
> "It’s great to have these images available, digitally, but why are you claiming copyright over, and to be the original source of, artworks and images from books which are already in the public domain? Why have you added a strapline underneath each image? And why is the precess of downloading high resolution versions of these public-domain works so tortuous, with a CAPTCHA, irrelevant terms & condition, and zipped files – why not make them available directly?" - (comment no.3) http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
> I also agree with Andy's response here - to chose option 2b - take the images that we can, label them as PD and *politely* explain (preferably in person) why we do not legally recognise their CC-BY claim even though we WILL make every effort to attribute properly. While we're at it, I would point Wellcome to the Europeana PD charter http://pro.europeana.eu/web/europeana-project/public-domain-charter-en
>
> -Liam
>
>
> wittylama.com
> Peace, love & metadata
>
>
> On 22 January 2014 09:42, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> On 21 January 2014 16:53, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, we have the following options:
> >
> > 1. Ignore them (pity)
>
> Not going to happen; note work-in-progress, and discussion, at:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading/Wellcome_Images_…
>
> > 2. Upload them as public domain and re-iterate the National Portrait Gallery
> > issue, and teach them that these open content wiki people are not to be
> > trusted
>
> 2b politely explain to WT that their licence statement is in error,
> and why, and that even if people in the UK abide by it, it is
> unenforceable internationally.
>
> > 3. Label them CC-BY so the Wellcome Trust can get a mandatory attribution,
> > which we would do anyway
>
> No, for the reasons stated by Christoph, and in the Commons discussion
> cited above. And we would not advise re-users that the attribution is
> mandatory.
>
> --
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> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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So, we have the following options:
1. Ignore them (pity)
2. Upload them as public domain and re-iterate the National Portrait
Gallery issue, and teach them that these open content wiki people are not
to be trusted
3. Label them CC-BY so the Wellcome Trust can get a mandatory attribution,
which we would do anyway
Personally, I'd go for #3. CC-BY is just one small step up from PD, so I
really don't see the practical harm.
(Disclaimer: I am paid by the Wellcome Trust, though indirectly via a
research institute, and nowhere near the image division;-)
Cheers,
Magnus
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Christoph Braun <
christoph.braun.de(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Our stance on copyright is that digital reproductions of public domain 2D
> source material is in the public domain, even if your laughable
> jurisdiction says otherwise.
>
> Regards, Christoph
>
> [1] Position of the WMF:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#The_p…
> [2] Straw poll, changing our policy on Wikimedia Commons:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag/Straw…
>
>
> 2014/1/21 Edward Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com>
>
>> I was thinking it would be AmazonTurk-able, but that’s neat there is a
>> service for it. Around $140.00 wouldn’t be a terrible price to pay. Still,
>> it would be nice to avoid it, and have Wellcome be a partner in the effort.
>>
>> What is “our stance on copyright”?
>>
>> //Ed
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Christoph Braun <
>> christoph.braun.de(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > There are plenty of services out there offering to solve captchas for
>> reasonable prices. Here's one of them: http://www.deathbycaptcha.com/
>> > Then again I think it might be more useful to approach the Wellcome
>> Library, both for getting easier access to their collection and informing
>> them about our stance on copyright.
>> >
>> > Regards, Christoph
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014/1/21 Edward Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com>
>> > I imagine some of you may have seen that the Wellcome Library announced
>> yesterday [1] that they have made over 100,000 high resolution images of
>> manuscripts, paintings, etchings, early photography, and advertisements
>> available using a CC-BY license. I was wondering [2] if it is ok to upload
>> CC-BY images to the Commons.
>> >
>> > This is mostly in theory since the downloads are sitting behind
>> reCAPTCHAs and several levels of click throughs — but you never know :-)
>> >
>> > //Ed
>> >
>> > [1]
>> http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
>> > [2]
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Can_I_upl…
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > GLAM(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GLAM mailing list
>> > GLAM(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
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FWIW, I think {{Licensed-PD-Art}} with CC-BY for the digital image is
perfectly acceptable here.
And yes, in many countries, these are PD, period. Where I'm coming from is
this: The Wellcome Trust didn't have to release these images under a free
license at all. They had them under a CC-NC one, and many of their current
ones still are. Yet, they invested time, money, effort, and probably quite
some infighting with legal etc. to get them under a free license. They
/try/ to open up as fast as they can. Slapping them in the face by
screaming MOAR is, irrespective of the legal situation, unlikely to help.
If this goes well for them, they'll probably release more images under free
licenses. Maybe even switch to CC-0 for some.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Christoph Braun <
christoph.braun.de(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally, I'd go for #3. CC-BY is just one small step up from PD, so I
>> really don't see the practical harm.
>
> Wiki Commons is used for a lot of things. Copyfraud promotion should not
> be one of them.
>
> I explicitly advise against using #3 for this collection or any other.
> Using #3 would imply that we a) didn't care about the public domain and b)
> didn't understand the idea behind CC licences.
> If we acknowledge such copyright claims, we also acknowledge the
> possibility of legal action in case of copyright violations (e.g. by
> violating the terms of the licence).
> Apart from this ideological thought, the actual legal enforceability of
> these copyright claims depends on your local jurisdiction.
> Yet, I don't think the Wellcome Library released this collection with the
> intention of pursuing licence breaches.
>
> As noted on
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wellcome_Imageswe could create something similar to
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Walters_Art_Museum_license
> It's not like we didn't encounter this issue before.
>
> Regards, Christoph
>
>
>
> 2014/1/21 Edward Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com>
>
>> oops, I forgot:
>>
>> [1]
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2014-January/007014.html
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edward Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Magnus Manske <
>> magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> So, we have the following options:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Ignore them (pity)
>> >> 2. Upload them as public domain and re-iterate the National Portrait
>> Gallery issue, and teach them that these open content wiki people are not
>> to be trusted
>> >> 3. Label them CC-BY so the Wellcome Trust can get a mandatory
>> attribution, which we would do anyway
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I'd go for #3. CC-BY is just one small step up from PD, so
>> I really don't see the practical harm.
>> >
>> > Agreed, #3 definitely seems like the best course of action to try first.
>> >
>> > Magnus, I suspect you already saw that I emailed Wellcome’s image folks
>> [1]. If you have any other contacts at Wellcome that could help out please
>> let me know and I will email them directly.
>> >
>> > //Ed
>>
>>
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I was thinking it would be AmazonTurk-able, but that’s neat there is a service for it. Around $140.00 wouldn’t be a terrible price to pay. Still, it would be nice to avoid it, and have Wellcome be a partner in the effort.
What is “our stance on copyright”?
//Ed
On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Christoph Braun <christoph.braun.de(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> There are plenty of services out there offering to solve captchas for reasonable prices. Here's one of them: http://www.deathbycaptcha.com/
> Then again I think it might be more useful to approach the Wellcome Library, both for getting easier access to their collection and informing them about our stance on copyright.
>
> Regards, Christoph
>
>
> 2014/1/21 Edward Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com>
> I imagine some of you may have seen that the Wellcome Library announced yesterday [1] that they have made over 100,000 high resolution images of manuscripts, paintings, etchings, early photography, and advertisements available using a CC-BY license. I was wondering [2] if it is ok to upload CC-BY images to the Commons.
>
> This is mostly in theory since the downloads are sitting behind reCAPTCHAs and several levels of click throughs — but you never know :-)
>
> //Ed
>
> [1] http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Can_I_upl…
>
>
>
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Your release of 100,000 CC-BY is very exciting news, thanks for writing about it in your blog [1]. It is a really big step forwards for libraries to make their holdings available on the Web with Creative Commons licenses, and you deserve a lot of credit for doing it, and helping move the conversation forward.
I am writing on behalf of some of the Wikipedia Commons volunteers. We were wondering if Wellcome would be open to having these CC-BY images uploaded to the Wikipedia Commons. We noticed that Wellcome Trust has an opening for a Wikipedian in Residence [2] and took that as a sign that it might be something you would be interested in helping out with?
As you know Lots of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe [3], so having an extra high-resolution copy of your images up in the Commons could be beneficial from a digital preservation perspective. More importantly having the images in the Commons helps them be reused in article content at one or more of the 285 language Wikipedias—which is great for access since Wikipedia is the 6th most popular Website in the world [4] and recently saw 532 million unique visitors per month [5]. Having the images on the Commons with proper attribution and URLs to the Wellcome Library website would let your content participate in that ecosystem.
If you think this sounds like something you would be willing to work with us on please let me, or the Wikimedia Commons discussion list (cc’d here) know.
Sincerely,
Ed Summers
[1] http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
[2] https://cancer-research-uk-jobs.tal.net/vx/appcentre-External/brand-2/candi…
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOCKSS
[4] http://www.alexa.com/topsites
[5] http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/
I imagine some of you may have seen that the Wellcome Library announced yesterday [1] that they have made over 100,000 high resolution images of manuscripts, paintings, etchings, early photography, and advertisements available using a CC-BY license. I was wondering [2] if it is ok to upload CC-BY images to the Commons.
This is mostly in theory since the downloads are sitting behind reCAPTCHAs and several levels of click throughs — but you never know :-)
//Ed
[1] http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Can_I_upl…
Greetings!
The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks your guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. As you know, this digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC. (1)
Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).
However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.
We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not we should support MP4 on our sites. The Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.
What do you think? We would be grateful for your comments here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/MP4_Video
All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.
We also invite you to join our Office Hours Chat on IRC this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours
We look forward to a constructive discussion with you and other community members, so we can make a more informed decision together about this important question.
All the best,
Fabrice Florin
Product Manager, Multimedia
Wikimedia Foundation
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
(1) About MP4:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP4
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Product Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
Dear Gerard,
Thank you so much for your kind words about the proposed Multimedia Vision for Wikimedia sites by 2016. (1)
I am glad that our first user stories resonate with you. They intentionally focus on ways that our community may interact through multimedia -- and we view these types of productive collaborations between different user groups as a key objective for our work.
We really appreciate your thoughtful blog post about this vision (2) and fully agree with you that more user stories will be needed to illustrate the scope of possible interactions between different communities around the world -- from schools to professional or personal sites around the world. We aim to identify more user stories like these to inform our next steps.
We are actively working with Lydia, Daniel and the Wikidata team to implement structured data on Commons and integrate it with Wikidata later this year, in collaboration with our community. We expect this work will improve a range of multimedia workflows as a result, from curation to search and beyond. We will definitely address the points you raise.
I would also like to thank all the community members who have joined our discussion about this multimedia vision (3). We are grateful for your feedback, and very glad to see a partnership develop between our community and the foundation around these goals, so we may better serve our users together.
If you haven’t commented yet, please share your feedback here, after viewing the video:
http://ur1.ca/gdljy
You are all invited to join our office hours IRC chat about multimedia this Thursday, January 16 at 19:00 UTC (4) — we look forward to discussing this vision and other media projects with you then. More on this later.
Thanks again for everyone’s wonderful work in helping share free knowledge through multimedia.
All the best,
Fabrice
(1) Multimedia Vision 2016:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Multimedia_Features/Vision_2016
(2) Blog Post by Gerard:
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikimedia-multimedia-featuresvis…
(3) Discuss the Multimedia Vision:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Multimedia_Features/Vision_…
(4) Multimedia Office Hours chat on IRC: Thursday at 19:00 UTC
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On Jan 10, 2014, at 4:01 AM, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:33:30 +0100
> From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
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> Hoi,
> Fabrice, I very much love the two stories described in the vision. It
> describes not only a functionality that is technical, it also describes how
> our community may interact. That is great.
>
> What I missed are the consequences of the planned integration of Commons
> with Wikidata. I blogged about it [1] and I suggest three more stories that
> could be told because they are enabled by this integration. What I do not
> fully understand is how the community aspects will integrate in an
> environment that will be more multi lingual and multi cultural as a
> consequence.
>
> I have confidence that the three stories that I suggest will be realised by
> 2016. Not only that, I am pretty sure that as a consequence the amount of
> traffic that our servers will have to handle will grow enormously to the
> extend that I am convinced that our current capacity will not be able to
> cope. Then again, they are the luxury problems that make us appreciate how
> much room we still have for growth.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> [1]
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikimedia-multimedia-featuresvis…
>
>
> On 10 January 2014 01:39, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Happy new year, everyone!
>>
>> Many thanks to all of you who contributed to our multimedia programs last
>> year! Now that we have a new multimedia team at WMF, we look forward to
>> making some good progress together this year.
>>
>> To kick off the new year, here is a proposed multimedia vision for 2016,
>> which was prepared by our multimedia and design teams, with guidance from
>> community members:
>>
>> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/09/multimedia-vision-2016/
>>
>> This possible scenario is intended for discussion purposes, to help us
>> visualize how we could improve our user experience over the next three
>> years. We hope that it will spark useful community feedback on some of the
>> goals we are considering.
>>
>> After you’ve viewed the video, we would be grateful if you could let us
>> know what you think in this discussion:
>>
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Multimedia_Features/Vision_…
>>
>> We are looking for feedback from all users who benefit from Commons, even
>> if their work takes place on other sites. This vision explores ways to
>> integrate Wikimedia Commons more closely with Wikipedia and other MediaWiki
>> projects, to help users contribute more easily to our free media repository
>> -- wherever they are.
>>
>> In coming weeks, we will start more focused discussions on some key
>> features outlined in this presentation. If you would like to join those
>> conversations and keep up with our work, we invite you to subscribe to our
>> multimedia mailing list:
>>
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia
>>
>> We look forward to more great collaborations in the new year!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>> Fabrice
>> on behalf of the Multimedia team
>>
>> _______________________________
>>
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>> Product Manager, Multimedia
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>
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> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:16:01 +0100
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch
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> Oh wow, this is so... well, random.
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> Cheers,
>
> Delphine
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Frank Schulenburg
> <fschulenburg(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm writing to let you know that Sarah Stierch is no longer an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation.
>>
>> The Wikimedia Foundation has recently learned that Sarah has been editing Wikipedia on behalf of paying clients, as recently as a few weeks ago. She did that even though it is widely known that paid editing is frowned upon by many in the editing community and by the Wikimedia Foundation.
>>
>> The Wikimedia Foundation values Sarah a great deal. She has been an active Wikipedian since 2006. She is committed to increasing dialogue between cultural institutions and our projects. She has worked hard to increase the presence and voices of women and other minorities in our projects, and she is a warm welcomer of new Wikipedians. Her work in Program Evaluation has been important and necessary. She is a good friend of many of us.
>>
>> Everybody makes mistakes, and I would like to believe that the Wikimedia movement is a place of forgiveness and compassion. And so I ask you to respect Sarah's privacy at what is surely a difficult time for her, and to join me in wishing her every future success.
>>
>> I sincerely hope that Sarah will continue her important work as a Wikipedian and member of the GLAM community, and I thank her for the commitment and energy and thoughtfulness she has brought to her work at the Foundation.
>>
>> Frank Schulenburg
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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Hoi,
Fabrice, I very much love the two stories described in the vision. It
describes not only a functionality that is technical, it also describes how
our community may interact. That is great.
What I missed are the consequences of the planned integration of Commons
with Wikidata. I blogged about it [1] and I suggest three more stories that
could be told because they are enabled by this integration. What I do not
fully understand is how the community aspects will integrate in an
environment that will be more multi lingual and multi cultural as a
consequence.
I have confidence that the three stories that I suggest will be realised by
2016. Not only that, I am pretty sure that as a consequence the amount of
traffic that our servers will have to handle will grow enormously to the
extend that I am convinced that our current capacity will not be able to
cope. Then again, they are the luxury problems that make us appreciate how
much room we still have for growth.
Thanks,
GerardM
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http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikimedia-multimedia-featuresvis…
On 10 January 2014 01:39, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Happy new year, everyone!
>
> Many thanks to all of you who contributed to our multimedia programs last
> year! Now that we have a new multimedia team at WMF, we look forward to
> making some good progress together this year.
>
> To kick off the new year, here is a proposed multimedia vision for 2016,
> which was prepared by our multimedia and design teams, with guidance from
> community members:
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/09/multimedia-vision-2016/
>
> This possible scenario is intended for discussion purposes, to help us
> visualize how we could improve our user experience over the next three
> years. We hope that it will spark useful community feedback on some of the
> goals we are considering.
>
> After you’ve viewed the video, we would be grateful if you could let us
> know what you think in this discussion:
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Multimedia_Features/Vision_…
>
> We are looking for feedback from all users who benefit from Commons, even
> if their work takes place on other sites. This vision explores ways to
> integrate Wikimedia Commons more closely with Wikipedia and other MediaWiki
> projects, to help users contribute more easily to our free media repository
> -- wherever they are.
>
> In coming weeks, we will start more focused discussions on some key
> features outlined in this presentation. If you would like to join those
> conversations and keep up with our work, we invite you to subscribe to our
> multimedia mailing list:
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia
>
> We look forward to more great collaborations in the new year!
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Fabrice
> on behalf of the Multimedia team
>
> _______________________________
>
> Fabrice Florin
> Product Manager, Multimedia
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
>
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> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia
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Happy new year, everyone!
Many thanks for all your wonderful multimedia contributions last year! We’re deeply grateful for all that you are doing to help create a richer media experience on Commons, Wikipedia and all Wikimedia sites --- and now that we have a full multimedia team, we look forward to making some great progress together this year.
To kick off the new year, we invite you to check out a proposed multimedia vision for 2016, which was prepared by our multimedia and design teams, with guidance from community members.
We invite you to view it and share your feedback here on Commons:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Multimedia_Features/Vision_2016
This possible scenario is intended for discussion purposes, to help us visualize how we could improve our user experience over the next three years.
This particular exploration proposes ways to integrate Wikipedia more closely with Commons, so that Wikipedians could contribute more easily to our free media repository, wherever they are.
This presentation is meant to spark community feedback on goals we are considering. To that end, we hosted several roundtable discussions in recent weeks, and are now inviting more community members to chime in online.
After you’ve viewed the video, we would be grateful if you could share your feedback in this discussion:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Multimedia_Features/Vision_…
In coming weeks, we will start more discussions focusing on some key features outlined in this proposed vision, and hope you will join those conversations as well, so we can make informed decisions together as a movement. More on this next week.
Thanks again for all that you do. We look forward to more collaborations with you!
All the best,
Fabrice
on behalf of the Multimedia Team
_______________________________
Fabrice Florin
Product Manager, Multimedia
Wikimedia Foundation
Wikipedia Profile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
Multimedia Project Hub:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia