A problem with wikibooks at the moment is that we don't have any formal
statement of the wikibooks "mission statement" anywhere, and we also don't
have any formal accepted definition of what precisely a "textbook" is, how
one is identified, etc. If we want to measure textbooks against the standard
that they must be used in an "accredited institution", that begs the
question what we mean by "accredited". Accredited by whom, precisely? There
are plenty of educational institutions that are "accredited" by all sorts of
bogus agencies, and there are plenty of educational institutions that are
not "accredited", but which do teach valuable, meaningful courses and
lessons to students.
Consider for instance an "accredited institution" that teaches phrenology,
astrology, etc. Such an institution would certainly be accredited by groups
that advocate such topics, but neither the educational institution, nor the
accrediting agency would be listed as "respected". Consider now the
existance of community organizations that teach informal classes to children
and the elderly. These organizations would certainly not be "accredited",
but they can certainly teach valuable lessons to the respective students.
Jimbo: If you want us to use a specific defintion of "textbook" and
"accredited institution", then you are going to have to mandate such
definitions to us. At the moment we are picking our way through such
matters, with varying degrees of success.
-- Andrew Whitworth "Whiteknight"
From: Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia.com>
Reply-To: Wikimedia textbook discussion <textbook-l(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia textbook discussion <textbook-l(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Textbook-l] Problem with NPOV
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:51:43 -0400
Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz wrote:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Imamat_or_Successorship_After_the_Last_Prophet…
I noticed there are more and more users who contribute to books that
are made with strongly islamic point of view (we already have some
texts about islam:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Category:Islam), with
nicks like "Truebeliever", "Believer" etc. I'm afraid that we
might
attract some zealots who see us as a good place to develop
propaganda. Generally, I think that we should think how we should
treat books about religious topics.
1. NPOV is crucial. Textbooks are not advocacy. They are to instruct
and inform, not brainwash and convert (in either direction!).
2. Wikibooks is for _textbooks_, not any random sort of nonfiction book.
One of the tests we should use is: "Does this book serve the specific
textbok needs of any actual class offered at any actual accredited
institution?" That will be a good way to cut out a lot of nonsense at
the start.
--Jimbo
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