Gotcha. I'm going to reply there, but to duplicate my comments for the sake
of people not following the bugzilla thread:
TL;DR, I really oppose turning this on with the way it's formatted now and
using the process that's being discussed.
*For more detail on each point; this is not, as MzMcBride claims, "just a
change to core functionality". It introduces a completely new workflow,
alters existing ones and sticks a big button on the (already overfilled)
page that we know all editors are going to see. There is no way this can be
turned on without a community discussion unless you want a raging storm of
anger hurled in the direction of whoever hits the big red button.
*The UI elements clash with current thinking about the direction that we're
going in. The Micro Designs Improvement project is currently working on the
edit window as we speak, and plans to do a couple more iterations given the
opportunity. I'd rather not throw two competing philosophies of design into
the mix - that works if they're from the same team, but I worry we'd end up
with (at best) an inconsistent UI.
*This really doesn't seem an efficient way to do things. What's the use
case here, exactly? If it's "people would like to save a draft in case they
lose their work", save the draft automatically after [number] of minutes or
seconds rather than requiring them to actually make a decision, and then
just void any drafts after [other number] of minutes or seconds. If it's
"we want to sort how confusing the existing setup is by offering functions
found on other sites", integrate that into the existing workflows to avoid
button bloat. At
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Drafts I'm seeing
edge cases discussed and the workflow discussed...but not how this in any
way can be integrated into how Wikipedia currently works, or how we'd like
it to work, or what exactly the use case is for this software. If there is
a use case, it needs to be communicated. If there isn't, we shouldn't be
turning it on.
On 15 September 2012 21:56, Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Oliver Keyes
<okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:
Can you give a greater explanation? Is this a
standalone extension, is it
part of the E3 team's work....?
No, it's not an E3 thing. Mz just filed a bug bringing up the fact that it
was derelict and potentially useful.
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Steven Walling
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Oliver Keyes
Community Liaison, Product Development
Wikimedia Foundation