Hoi,
A category includes images that have shared characteristics. The problem
with categories is that they are error prone, mistakes are made or they are
just not added or understood. A category like "Frisian stallions" has
obviously stallions of the Frisian breed in them. When an image is known
to have a "Friese stamboekhengst" in Dutch, you do not need to add a text
for "Frisian stallion". Because one is the translation of the other. You
can search for all the paintings by 文森·梵谷 and tind the same paintings I
would when I seek them for Vincent van Gogh.
There is nothing wrong with having categories at this time. It is just that
once we add statements, the same information will be available in every
other language. We cannot do it now. The whole current issue with Wikidata
is not that relevant as it will change when development time is put into
place and have Wikidata type annotations and queries in a way that is not
only but also English.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 August 2015 at 20:37, Steinsplitter Wiki <steinsplitter-wiki(a)live.com>
wrote:
>The problem
with Commons is that its categories will be largely
redundant once Wikidata type
technology will replace them
Can you elaborate please? What is replacing commons category system?
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From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:30:36 +0200
To: commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to
Commons
Hoi.
The problem with Commons is that its categories will be largely redundant
once Wikidata type technology will replace them, It will be just a question
of having a query for the result that you want.. If you want to have fences
in mauve, by all means, query for it but there may be the surprise that
there are none.
Creating items for categories for Commons is imho an exercise in
futility.. What is the point after all ? Having those categories may mean
that we have a clue what queries are of interest..So when people add those
categories, it is current best practice.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 August 2015 at 16:51, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
the problem I see is that commons will always have more categories than
wikipedia can have articles take fences, commons has wooden fences this
broken into many cats including wooden fences in a country, this then grows
and then gets broken into sub national entities while the number of
articles on wikipedia remains at one commons now has 196 country articles
with anything between 5 and 50 sub national entities, then some idiot
paints his fence now we have wooden fences by colour in a little over 3000
pantone colours....
What I'm seeing here is solution that has the horse pushing the cart
problem lies not in linking commons cats to wikipedia articles wikidata but
in ensuring wikidata articles are linked to the full range of categories
available on commons and that those links can be easily adjusted as
necessary
On 30 August 2015 at 18:42, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Luca Martinelli, 30/08/2015 12:03:
Am I the only one that thinks that jheald's .js is a temporary solution?
Am I the only one that actually appreciate his attempt at solving a
*practical* problem by providing a *practical* solution,
It might be a practical solution, but I don't understand what it solves:
what's the practical problem?
Quoting from the project chat, the problem to me seems this: «2.4 millions
categories are not connected to corresponding Wikipedia articles. [...] —
Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC)».
Nemo
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