On 4/10/2012 8:59 AM, Cary Bass wrote:
On 4/10/2012 7:38 AM, Nathan wrote:
You must've missed SJ's earlier e-mail, where he linked this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/ObiWolf_Lesbian_...
Tim's descriptions of the deletion discussions referred specifically to the ObiWolf images. Reading those discussions and posts to this list, I don't think you can conclude "the system we have works very well" - at least not in those cases.
Absolutely,
I've read the OTRS email, now. The author never intended to release the images to the public under a free license. He uploaded them to Flickr to share with the models. It seems that we are playing "gotcha" with the artist by stating "irrevocable", which is a very poor stand from which to operate, especially because people do make errors in judgement due to lack of technical expertise or understanding of implication.
The images are not actually available anywhere else under a free license, and I've yet to locate anything but a direct link to the images themselves available online, on a copyrighted site. Additionally, the artist's Flickr site
SHOULD READ: "the artist's Flickr site is now entirely Copyright, thereby demonstrating a renewed understanding of intent and free licensing."
We are indeed broken if we are now deciding that we cannot honor an artist's request to remove images he uploaded in either an error of judgment, a misunderstanding of licensing, a lack of technical understanding, or some combination of any or all of those.
So, can this still be remedied? I would like to hear suggestions. I think we have admins willing to delete the images, but I would certainly not do this on my own, "lone wolf' style, or without some agreement as to how to accomplish this.
Cary