On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 12:36 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
2009/6/4 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl:
David Gerard schreef:
Anyone here have anything to say on the problems?
You might want to read http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Piki... It pretty much sums up all problems (and possible solutions!).
From that thread, I think I can conclusively say: if Commons has been obstructively bureaucratic to the point that an entire chapter (WM-IL) will no longer work with it ... then Commons has *failed utterly* as a service project, and will need reining in at the Foundation level.
- d.
Yes, this whole episode has been a failure for all involved - there is no shortage of blame to spread around. However pointing fingers at this point is unlikely to be particularly helpful. Instead, we shoul focus on fixing the problems which were raised (which are real), and reigning in some of the more block-happy admins. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that this couldn't have been resolve amicably and without blocking anyone or anything.
-Mike