On 16/10/2007, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
My watchflickr tool [1] includes an option to upload an image with a suitable CC license to commons using a "bot" account [2]. So far, I have received no complaints about bad uploads, and from its gallery it seems OK as well (except some duplicate uploads).
It's a winner. I've been using it on placeholder images on en:wp. WatchFlickr has about one hit in fifty, but that one is worth the effort. Often the image found is crappy and needs cropping and tweaking to be any good, but often enough it's bot-uploadable.
Now, anyone can upload an image to flickr, and release it under CC-BY(-SA). Same as wikipedia, right? Except that wikipedia uploads are probably screened much more thoroughly for cases that are clearly not under the given license.
The one thing I find problematic with the auto-uploading bot is that it accepts the tag on Flickr as valid. I've found far too many cases where the tag on Flickr is clearly invalid and the Flickr uploader's just been sloppy.
That is: have the robot leave the image as requiring human validation, and that should be cleared up.
My CommonsHelper tool [3] eases the transfer of images from wikipedia to the commons, and has been used a whooping 93435 times this year. Assuming that every use results in an upload on commons, over 330 images /per day/ enter commons this way, a not unimportant proportion of the 5000 uploads per day, especially considering that it will only take images that have a commons-compatible license. However, users still have to save the image on their own computer, then upload them under their own user account, which is annoying and time-consuming. CommonsHelper does have the functionality to do direct uploads via the aforementioned bot account, however, that has been deactivated since forever, due to concerns.
I think a checking step like Flickr checking would be suitable.
I would like to propose the reactivation of that feature. Concernes about unsuitable uploads through the bot account are superflous, IMHO, since images are screened thrice this way:
- On the wikipedia where the image was originally uploaded
- By the CommonsHelper (e.g. it will reject "fair use" images from en)
- On commons, by the usual suspects :-)
Tag it as needing step 3 and it'll be fine until then.
All in all, I'd estimate that there's between 0.5 and 1 million images on the wikipedias that would be suitable for commons. You can see how "save locally, then upload manually" annoyance can scale up :-)
Indeed.
Providing you add a tag for "could a human check this please" then anything that makes it easier would be marvellous, thank you!
- d.