---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
Beautifully said, Jan. Great to see you at the birthday blowout. michael
----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Notzon [mailto:jan@jannotzon.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:07 PM Pacific Standard Time To: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
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Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to allthe Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com To: jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Doc Just wanted to add my sorrow at missing the 80th - had to go to Cleveland to support my son while he passed a kidney stone.... While it has been a complex journey, I would just add my thanks to you for the gift that you gave me (and multiple children, my own and others)... the gift of believing in our own potential. What Mary says is right, you taught us that we were capable of anything if we just freed up our restraints and let imagination fly... you taught us that we could explore relationships in a way that was both terrifying and safe. I know that my life would be so much lesser if I had not been given the opportunity from you. So words seem very inadequate, but I can no other answer make, but, thanks and thanks.... Bruce P.S. for those of you who were there, can you let the rest of us in on what happened? And Alice, can you share the "script"?
From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Collins Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:16 AM To: James Ayres; jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to all the Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> To: winedale-l <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.ormailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or> Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Sending the script would be nice. Doc, you should send to everyone the poem you recited. And for Clayton's triangle playing/accompaniment with Tara, Jon, and Madge...well, you just had to be there :)
Eric
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:35 AM, "Bruce Meyer" <Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edumailto:Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu> wrote:
Doc Just wanted to add my sorrow at missing the 80th – had to go to Cleveland to support my son while he passed a kidney stone…. While it has been a complex journey, I would just add my thanks to you for the gift that you gave me (and multiple children, my own and others)… the gift of believing in our own potential. What Mary says is right, you taught us that we were capable of anything if we just freed up our restraints and let imagination fly… you taught us that we could explore relationships in a way that was both terrifying and safe. I know that my life would be so much lesser if I had not been given the opportunity from you. So words seem very inadequate, but I can no other answer make, but, thanks and thanks…. Bruce P.S. for those of you who were there, can you let the rest of us in on what happened? And Alice, can you share the “script”?
From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Collins Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:16 AM To: James Ayres; jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to all the Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> To: winedale-l <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.ormailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or> Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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I have a lot of photos that i will post this weekend. It was a wonderful day, lots of smiling and laughing. And like all, thank you Doc, for all of it, now and then... (Will someone remind me who posted the whole batch of winedale photos back at reunion time? I normally use flickr, but the other posting was more accessible and with help, Ill use that same site. Wont get to these til saturday, but will let listserv know when theyre up.)
Laura
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Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu wrote:
Doc Just wanted to add my sorrow at missing the 80th – had to go to Cleveland to support my son while he passed a kidney stone…. While it has been a complex journey, I would just add my thanks to you for the gift that you gave me (and multiple children, my own and others)… the gift of believing in our own potential. What Mary says is right, you taught us that we were capable of anything if we just freed up our restraints and let imagination fly… you taught us that we could explore relationships in a way that was both terrifying and safe. I know that my life would be so much lesser if I had not been given the opportunity from you. So words seem very inadequate, but I can no other answer make, but, thanks and thanks…. Bruce P.S. for those of you who were there, can you let the rest of us in on what happened? And Alice, can you share the “script”?
From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Collins Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:16 AM To: James Ayres; jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to all the Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> To: winedale-l <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.ormailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or> Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Can't wait to see them!
----- Original Message ----- From: Smith, Laura R. [mailto:laursmit@UTMB.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 07:43 AM Pacific Standard Time To: Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
I have a lot of photos that i will post this weekend. It was a wonderful day, lots of smiling and laughing. And like all, thank you Doc, for all of it, now and then... (Will someone remind me who posted the whole batch of winedale photos back at reunion time? I normally use flickr, but the other posting was more accessible and with help, Ill use that same site. Wont get to these til saturday, but will let listserv know when theyre up.)
Laura
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Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu wrote:
Doc Just wanted to add my sorrow at missing the 80th – had to go to Cleveland to support my son while he passed a kidney stone…. While it has been a complex journey, I would just add my thanks to you for the gift that you gave me (and multiple children, my own and others)… the gift of believing in our own potential. What Mary says is right, you taught us that we were capable of anything if we just freed up our restraints and let imagination fly… you taught us that we could explore relationships in a way that was both terrifying and safe. I know that my life would be so much lesser if I had not been given the opportunity from you. So words seem very inadequate, but I can no other answer make, but, thanks and thanks…. Bruce P.S. for those of you who were there, can you let the rest of us in on what happened? And Alice, can you share the “script”?
From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Collins Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:16 AM To: James Ayres; jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to all the Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> To: winedale-l <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.ormailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or> Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Mary
We missed you.
It was great to join other trekkers and stand on that stage one more time. It was a perfect Winedale day--doses of fear, exhaustion, camaraderie, exhilaration, good food, a little alcohol, hallowed words reverberating in the air, almost forgotten faces, Doc feeling pretty good, looking pretty good, Winedale alums singing the old songs, the brilliant 12-year-old ass proving Shakespeare is child's play, the day too brief, turning into farewell hugs and car wheels churning dust into the spring air. Anon, we think, as the barn recedes in the rear view.
Thanks Doc. Thanks James.
Rob Lallier From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Collins Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:16 AM To: James Ayres; jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
Dearest Doc,
Happy 80th Birthday! Congratulations on 50+ (?) years of teaching!
You are the best teacher I have had. You set it up so that, yes, we were REQUIRED to awaken our faith in each other: That first day at Winedale, in spring of 1975, I found myself in a field with some other students and somehow we were to work on The School for Scandal. uh... "Where is Dr. Ayres?" I thought to myself, and, "What the hell are we supposed to DO?" Well, Linda and Cindy showed me how to watch, listen and just begin, to move my body in space, letting the words lead. No one I had seen had given students such freedom, expressing such faith himself in those students. I will never stop thanking you for trusting us the way you did, and do. And I will never stop being grateful to all the Ancianos I know.
And, Doc, knowing you helped awaken my faith in myself - that it was ok to be a green girl from San Antonio, instead of a wannabe French glamour girl.
Sixth and lastly, I love you. Alice has told me about the celebration - practically perfect! I am sorry not to have been there - it is Lily's spring break and duty called. Reading the swirl of emails has been wonderful, as the circle forms and continues to grow.
Mary
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
Thanks for sharing the letter to Alice. I had the pleasure of being audience to her talk about the chapter at last year's Austin Book Fair. She captures so many wonderful things about the experience. Even the mumbling Doc. Just ahead is another reunion year: 2015. A good time to celebrate (with required margaritas) and give Alice stuff for Chapter 2.
It was wonderful seeing you again! Let's keep in touch.
Cheers,
Doc
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.commailto:jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon <janotzon@aol.commailto:janotzon@aol.com> To: winedale-l <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.ormailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or> Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
--Mike
That would actually be my birthday... Bruce
-----Original Message----- From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:25 AM To: Mary Collins Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
--Mike
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-----Original Message----- From: Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:26:57 To: mnemonic@gmail.commnemonic@gmail.com; Mary Collinsmmcollins50@yahoo.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgwinedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Winedale-l] faith
That would actually be my birthday... Bruce
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I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
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And my anniversary. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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That would actually be my birthday... Bruce
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I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
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Happy Anniversary, Mary and Tony!
----- Original Message ----- From: mmcollins50@yahoo.com [mailto:mmcollins50@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 08:55 AM Pacific Standard Time To: Bruce Meyer bruce.meyer@utsouthwestern.edu; Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] faith
And my anniversary. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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That would actually be my birthday... Bruce
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I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
--Mike
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Bruce and I took our first class with Doc as part of the Spring Shakespeare-at-Winedale class back in 1979. I'm guessing that is when I first bothered to learn Shakespeare's birthday, and when I probably learned, at least for a time, that it was the same as Bruce's. And it was all tied up with Doc (another Spring birthday) and SAW. So I think my long-term confusion is entirely understandable.
--Mike
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That would actually be my birthday... Bruce
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I always have to remind myself that Doc was born in March. A part of my brain keeps insisting he was born on April 23.
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I agree with Michael, Jan, so beautifully said. Love to all!Joy Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:07:48 -0400 From: jan@jannotzon.com To: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Winedale-l] Fwd: Alice's treatise
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Dear Alice,
After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you!
Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again.
So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace.
But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain.
So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away.
God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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Dear Jan, and to all you copied on this message,
Wow, did you make my day, or what!? And I thought just getting to be onstage with you again was the major treat.
Whatever your techno problems were, I'm grateful you solved them, because it was such a lovely, gratifying surprise to get this note. It means the world to me that "Barn Dance" moved you, and that it took you time-traveling. Writing the piece did that for me, deeply immersed me into a living past, as you describe the process of reentering the SAW memory zone so well. You must indeed have your signed copy! I'm going to UT Press to get a few copies at my author discount rate tomorrow, and I would be happy to get you one, and sign it and send it your way. So do please send me your address.
And thank you Doc, Michael, Joy, and all who reiterated their appreciation for the essay. As we all know, we owe it all to Doc's deciding to teach Shakespeare, and to fate putting us in the right place at the right time. Whew! Oh, lucky lucky stars.
Even an apostate can steal from the Bible: My cup runneth over.
Happy future Shakespeare's birthday, Robin's birthday, Bruce's birthday, and Mary's anniversary!
Love, to all, Alice
PS I am happy to send the script out, so just holler if you want it.
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---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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I just want to add my own voice to the chorus of praise for "Barn Dance."
As it happens, I donated my papers to the Briscoe Historical Center last year. And in gratitude for my donation, the Briscoe folks sent me copies of THE TEXAS BOOK and THE TEXAS BOOK TWO, the latter of which has Alice's lovely piece in it.
The book occupies an honored place on my (now much reduced) bookshelves.
--Mike
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Jan, and to all you copied on this message,
Wow, did you make my day, or what!? And I thought just getting to be onstage with you again was the major treat.
Whatever your techno problems were, I'm grateful you solved them, because it was such a lovely, gratifying surprise to get this note. It means the world to me that "Barn Dance" moved you, and that it took you time-traveling. Writing the piece did that for me, deeply immersed me into a living past, as you describe the process of reentering the SAW memory zone so well. You must indeed have your signed copy! I'm going to UT Press to get a few copies at my author discount rate tomorrow, and I would be happy to get you one, and sign it and send it your way. So do please send me your address.
And thank you Doc, Michael, Joy, and all who reiterated their appreciation for the essay. As we all know, we owe it all to Doc's deciding to teach Shakespeare, and to fate putting us in the right place at the right time. Whew! Oh, lucky lucky stars.
Even an apostate can steal from the Bible: My cup runneth over.
Happy future Shakespeare's birthday, Robin's birthday, Bruce's birthday, and Mary's anniversary!
Love, to all, Alice
PS I am happy to send the script out, so just holler if you want it.
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Jan Notzon wrote:
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Alice's treatise From: "Jan Notzon" janotzon@aol.com Date: Tue, March 26, 2013 2:39 pm To: jan@jannotzon.com
For some reason, I had to write this on my aol account, send to this site, so that I could send it out to you. I hope to God it works!
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Notzon janotzon@aol.com To: winedale-l winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.or Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 10:54 am Subject: Alice's treatise
Dear Alice, After the celebrations, the reunions, the tearful nostalgia, the festivities and joyous fun, Lynn showed me with her copy of your treatise on Shakespeare at Winedale. I wish to bestow on you perhaps the greatest accolade I can imagine giving to a writer: Damn you! Your extraordinary grasp and ability to convey in such powerful and moving prose such an ineffable phenomenon sent me back to a place I had long forgotten: that excruciating moment when, at the end of such a transformative experience, one I shared with you, with Michael, Nick, Robert, Donald, my adored Terry and so many others, it had come to a heart-rending end. It was a time of inexpressible loss, when the euphoria of creative ensemble and boundless love had arrived at its inevitable hiatus. It was a time when (forgive the overused term) the magic of the creative impulse and passion for the communal exploration of the greatest literature in the history of man, that had given us such meaning and purpose and connection and sheer joy, gave its reluctant, oh so reluctant, way and sent us on our solitary journeys, aching for that ecstasy once again. So I was left, at your hand, yearning once again for that boundless joy, full of tears and painful self-discovery, but all the more joyous for it; left, once again, feeling parts of my soul torn from their moorings and searching, searching for that unique sense of communion and grace. But please, please, know that I will be eternally grateful to you for allowing me to know that intolerable ache once again. There is no more potent reminder of life, of love, of the piercing joy of existence. Life is nothing without loss, for without that profound sense of loss, it is certain that our life had never known such wondrous gain. So, thank you for reminding me of all that I have gained and for realizing that it was never really lost. For as long as we can say, "I miss it so much," it is never really gone. No, Shakespeare at Winedale is indelibly engraved on our souls, and a river of tears could never wash it away. God bless you and Doc and all who have contributed their unique passion in making Shakespeare at Winedale what it is.
Love,
Jan
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