This also reminds me of how much fun we had, Buddy. So great to hear from you. m
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Thanks, Buddy, for all of this. I do remember it well.
Doc
On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steele, William B. wrote:
Thank you, Jerald, for remembering for all of us and remembering so well. And thank you Terry and Madge (Madge, I wished I could have met you) for your thoughtfulness for all of us, as well.
Jerald, your perfect ramble brought back so many memories. One distinct memory is of another camp, in many ways like Camp Windale. Rob knows this other camp -- Camp Grady Spruce. A "Y" camp on Possum Kingdom Lake (the best lake name ever). I was the Pioneer Unit Leader at Camp Grady Spruce for the first half of the summer of '75, cramming in all the plays we had to read, between rain hikes and after-hours beer at the haystack. The year before, when Nixon resigned on that summer day in '74 -- as Jerald recalls -- many of us CGSers had been on an extended 3-day trip down the Brazos, wholly unaware of the event. Days before, we had been cheering Sam Irwin on as he put it to Tricky Dick in the Senate hearings. (The Graford Trumpet would bury any mention of the Watergators while plugging the Graham Gophers' Grahamcracker Jamboree on the front page.) Anyway, after three days on the river, at the end of our trip, Dick Whittington hiked up and got the Chevy Carryall parked under the Mineral Wells Bridge. The radio still worked in the Carryall back then. We didn't know why Whit was gone so long and later learned that he dropped by PeeWee's to get a sixpack of Pearl before picking us up. Beer drinking was not one of the approved tent activities, so when Whit handed cold Pearls to each of the counselors, including dewey-lipped freshmen, we should have been tipped me off that something was up. Then, Whit lifted his Pearl and asked us to toast our President. What!? Not the Trickster!!! "No, to the new President, the Honorable Gerald Ford." Could have knocked us over with a feather. The Pearl definitely did the trick.
Now, back to my point. Just as I remember these details of the day Tricky Dick resigned when I was at Camp Grady Spruce, I also fondly remember Winedale, perhaps because Winedale was so much like Camp Grady Spruce. Eating together, sweating in blistering heat together. Group pow wows. Getting along with all kinds of different folks. And for me in particular, I was pretty clueless about what Shakespeare was saying in so much of what I read. But, there I was. I couldn't write home and ask my folks to come get me. Luckily, nobody seemed to notice or, if they did, they were good campers and didn't snicker in front of me or short-sheet my bed. Even though I viewed his verses through a glass very darkly, I was still digging the acting, the farting around with funny people, shooting the shit and playing pool, being on stage, making masks, and seeing all these very talented people bring to life that which I had to hack my way through. I was especially proud with helping to choreograph the "chase scene" from "Much Ado", involving lots of slamming open and shut up-stairs shutters, running around on the roof, poking heads in and out in Keystone Kops slapstick style.
Anyway, somehow, the song of CGS and the song of Winedale harmonize like no other songs I know. I can't describe it, much less do it justice. Both are with me still. Somewhere. Not always where I can find them, much like my car keys. So, thank you, Jerald, and thank you, Alice, for getting so much of it down on paper, and thank you, Laura, for getting it down in pictures, and thank you, Terry and Madge, for remembering the folks who made it so great for all of us campers.
Buddy
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:11:07 -0700 From: "Barker, Michael" Michael_Barker@spe.sony.com Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CBA3B19E464ADB4497217FAD4AFB6B190CB9F10B9E@USSDIXMSG22.spe.sony.com
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Thank you, Madge and Terry. That's just great.\ m
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Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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thanks madge...thanks terry...xoa
On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com wrote:
Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 From: Jerald Head jlhead1952@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, terry galloway tlgalloway@aol.com Message-ID: 1CCE0F6C-74F8-4319-B92C-DB5EA4FABA59@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Terry and Madge, What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us s moked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures.
We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977.
As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. Jerald On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote:
Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:55 -0500 From: Valerie Malone vmm@austin.rr.com Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head jlhead1952@gmail.com Cc: terry galloway tlgalloway@aol.com, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com Message-ID: 32CEA333-13E0-4C0D-B031-BC3EA3DA0662@austin.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Wow, Jerald. Thank you for writing this down. When you told me the story this past weekend, I thought it amazing, and now to have it here for all to appreciate and to refer back to again - well, thank you. You made me cry. I have to go now to find the kleenex before I ruin my laptop keyboard. xoxo, Valerie
On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote:
Terry and Madge, What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us
smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures.
We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977.
As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. Jerald On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote:
Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:30:07 -0400 From: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head jlhead1952@gmail.com, Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Terry Galloway <tlgalloway@aol.com
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Thank you, Jerald, for slowing me down enough to send me back to Madge's email, for the picture attached which I hadn't noticed in my hectic race through emails. And thank you for this perfect extended recollection of the important, sweet beings missing from the celebration of this anniversary.
And Madge, once again you prove yourself an indescribable treasure.
Alice
From: Jerald Head jlhead1952@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 To: Madge Darlington mmdarlington@gmail.com, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Terry Galloway tlgalloway@aol.com Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline
Terry and Madge, What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures.
We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977.
As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. Jerald On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote:
Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:45:02 -0500 From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head jlhead1952@gmail.com Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 2C81FB9D-9C1F-4D70-8A31-76A54C8405F6@mail.utexas.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Wow -- thanks for this, Jerald. You took me back too. It was such an amazing juxtaposition, the world of the Barn and the world of the tavern. I remember the shock of seeing a television on over the bar late in the summer, showing a pre-season football game -- such a bizarre sight. Hard to imagine being that blissfully isolated today.
By '83 we probably were a bit less connected to the store than in your day, but my first great Winedale experience (after walking into the Barn) was a dinner gathering over by the big oak by the lake, with all the community folks singing German songs to Dwight's accordion. Fried catfish or BBQ, can't remember for certain, but Ronnie's cooking was incredible. Edith Klump was still working at her son's restaurant as of four or five years ago (Doc can correct me on the date, but it wasn't too long ago), and she was still just as sweet as can be, though she must've been in a lot of pain at times, and was moving slowly. They sold the place in the last year or two and thus went the last tangible community link for me to the old days.
cs
On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote:
Terry and Madge, What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us
smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures.
We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977.
As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. Jerald On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote:
Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students.
Thinking of you all.
Love, Madge
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