Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
we ran the veer offense in high school
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On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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In 1972 (I think that year is right), my Mom and Dad were students at the University. We never missed a game. One day we went to try out the new elevators at Belmont which were put in to allow fast access to the brand new west upper deck seats. On the way down, we got into an elevator on the top floor...the doors opened on a mid-level floor and Coach Royal and Roosevelt Leaks got in. I almost peed my pants. I looked over at my Dad and he was sweating bullets and didn't know what to say. We were both star struck. Coach turned around and said "How are YOU son?". I was shy, but my Dad gave me a nudge and I blurted "fine Coach!". Wow...I haven't thought of that in years.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.netwrote:
we ran the veer offense in high school
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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On Nov 11, 2012, at 10:59 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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as Lou Reed said: "Those were different times, all the poets studied rules of verse, and the ladies they rolled their eyes." -Sweet Jane
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On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:59 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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Thanks Doc -- wonderful stories. And I remember you telling me you ran into DKR at the hotel before the great Rose Bowl game. That was probably just before the disease began to really kick in. Kirk Bohls' story a few days back told how Edith discovered one morning that Darrell had left the car in the garage, running -- the garage door knob almost burned her hand, it was so hot. That was when she knew things had turned a corner.
I was able to be at the game Saturday and see the wishbone play, though it seemed the backs were set way too wide-out for a true wishbone. But it was a setup for a Bryan Harsin trick play that got a gain and a big roar from the crowd.
By the way, I was monitoring online the auction of Royal's personal items today, set up by his wife to raise money for the Alzheimer's foundation Edith founded last year. Emma and I went by the auction house this morning to ogle the stuff and dream of bidding on it. DKR's honorary Rose Bowl ring from that national championship game went for $105,000.
The item I was hoping I could snag, a water-stained print image of DKR, Tom Landry, and Vince Lombardi from the '70s, signed by Darrell, was out of my range at $450. Emma was hoping for Edith's Texas tote bag with the four Longhorn pins, but it went for $125. I just don't make that kinda money, dear, I had to explain to her….
Below is a link to a great piece from last year by Michael Corcoran about Royal's connection to Willie and his intense passion for genuine country music. A wonderful part of his legacy here and a snapshot of a time gone by.
cheers,
cs
http://www.austin360.com/news/entertainment/music/the-fan-how-darrell-royal-...
On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Aubrey Carter wrote:
as Lou Reed said: "Those were different times, all the poets studied rules of verse, and the ladies they rolled their eyes." -Sweet Jane
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On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:59 PM, James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> wrote:
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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In case anybody wants to see what the "real" wishbone looked like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpap8If1OQ ________________________________ From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of Clayton Stromberger [cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:24 PM To: Aubrey Carter Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Thanks Doc -- wonderful stories. And I remember you telling me you ran into DKR at the hotel before the great Rose Bowl game. That was probably just before the disease began to really kick in. Kirk Bohls' story a few days back told how Edith discovered one morning that Darrell had left the car in the garage, running -- the garage door knob almost burned her hand, it was so hot. That was when she knew things had turned a corner.
I was able to be at the game Saturday and see the wishbone play, though it seemed the backs were set way too wide-out for a true wishbone. But it was a setup for a Bryan Harsin trick play that got a gain and a big roar from the crowd.
By the way, I was monitoring online the auction of Royal's personal items today, set up by his wife to raise money for the Alzheimer's foundation Edith founded last year. Emma and I went by the auction house this morning to ogle the stuff and dream of bidding on it. DKR's honorary Rose Bowl ring from that national championship game went for $105,000.
The item I was hoping I could snag, a water-stained print image of DKR, Tom Landry, and Vince Lombardi from the '70s, signed by Darrell, was out of my range at $450. Emma was hoping for Edith's Texas tote bag with the four Longhorn pins, but it went for $125. I just don't make that kinda money, dear, I had to explain to her….
Below is a link to a great piece from last year by Michael Corcoran about Royal's connection to Willie and his intense passion for genuine country music. A wonderful part of his legacy here and a snapshot of a time gone by.
cheers,
cs
http://www.austin360.com/news/entertainment/music/the-fan-how-darrell-royal-...
On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Aubrey Carter wrote:
as Lou Reed said: "Those were different times, all the poets studied rules of verse, and the ladies they rolled their eyes." -Sweet Jane
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On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:59 PM, James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> wrote:
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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great team!
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On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Shawn Kairschner shawn.kairschner@villanova.edu wrote:
In case anybody wants to see what the "real" wishbone looked like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpap8If1OQ From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of Clayton Stromberger [cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:24 PM To: Aubrey Carter Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Thanks Doc -- wonderful stories. And I remember you telling me you ran into DKR at the hotel before the great Rose Bowl game. That was probably just before the disease began to really kick in. Kirk Bohls' story a few days back told how Edith discovered one morning that Darrell had left the car in the garage, running -- the garage door knob almost burned her hand, it was so hot. That was when she knew things had turned a corner.
I was able to be at the game Saturday and see the wishbone play, though it seemed the backs were set way too wide-out for a true wishbone. But it was a setup for a Bryan Harsin trick play that got a gain and a big roar from the crowd.
By the way, I was monitoring online the auction of Royal's personal items today, set up by his wife to raise money for the Alzheimer's foundation Edith founded last year. Emma and I went by the auction house this morning to ogle the stuff and dream of bidding on it. DKR's honorary Rose Bowl ring from that national championship game went for $105,000.
The item I was hoping I could snag, a water-stained print image of DKR, Tom Landry, and Vince Lombardi from the '70s, signed by Darrell, was out of my range at $450. Emma was hoping for Edith's Texas tote bag with the four Longhorn pins, but it went for $125. I just don't make that kinda money, dear, I had to explain to her….
Below is a link to a great piece from last year by Michael Corcoran about Royal's connection to Willie and his intense passion for genuine country music. A wonderful part of his legacy here and a snapshot of a time gone by.
cheers,
cs
http://www.austin360.com/news/entertainment/music/the-fan-how-darrell-royal-...
On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Aubrey Carter wrote:
as Lou Reed said: "Those were different times, all the poets studied rules of verse, and the ladies they rolled their eyes." -Sweet Jane
ACDO 1401 East 7th Street Austin, Texas 78702 512-472-3393
On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:59 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that. I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy." Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day. Doc On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
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Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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ACDO 1401 East 7th Street Austin, Texas 78702 512-472-3393
On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
ACDO 1401 East 7th Street Austin, Texas 78702 512-472-3393
On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but
inescapably engaged
former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such
wonderful
memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement
with his game
and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open
to a
particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to
talk to
Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym.
In '69
I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he
asked us
to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked
arrangement
to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward
back
and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown.
We
decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic
council.
We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director
matters. I
discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the
position of
athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did
not
select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred
Akers
instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director.
Deloss
is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at
Ciscos
a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel
grounds in
south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie
at the
end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both
50
that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
ACDO 1401 East 7th Street Austin, Texas 78702 512-472-3393
On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but
inescapably engaged
former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such
wonderful
memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement
with his game
and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped
open to a
particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to
talk to
Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym.
In '69
I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he
asked us
to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to
do
when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked
arrangement
to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive
forward back
and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a
touchdown. We
decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic
council.
We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director
matters. I
discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the
position of
athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did
not
select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred
Akers
instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director.
Deloss
is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at
Ciscos
a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel
grounds in
south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie
at the
end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were
both 50
that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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You have definitely lived a rich and varied life, sir
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And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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Aubrey
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Austin, Texas 78702
512-472-3393
On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged
former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful
memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game
and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a
particularly poignant page here.
Love,
Alice
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800
To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu>
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Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to
Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an
appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69
I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very
graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us
to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do
when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two
steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement
to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back
and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our
ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We
decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council.
We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I
discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of
athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not
select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers
instead.
He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss
is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos
a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football.
Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning
before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in
south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the
end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50
that day.
Doc
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged
former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful
memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game
and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a
particularly poignant page here.
Love,
Alice
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Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800
To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to
Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an
appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69
I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very
graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us
to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do
when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two
steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement
to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back
and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our
ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We
decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council.
We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I
discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of
athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not
select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers
instead.
He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss
is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos
a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football.
Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning
before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in
south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the
end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50
that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone.
So we made an
appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director
matters. I
discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53
Veer pass,
cs
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1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
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Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian <zinzabar@yahoo.commailto:zinzabar@yahoo.com> wrote: Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
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Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
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Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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I still don't talk about that other game...
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
> I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact." > > My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor. > > Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that." > > Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone." > > I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young. > > Love, > Terry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net > To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net > Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu > Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR > > hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade > Aubrey > > ACDO > 1401 East 7th Street > Austin, Texas 78702 > 512-472-3393 > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote: > > > Dear Doc, > > > > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged > > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful > > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game > > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a > > particularly poignant page here. > > > > Love, > > Alice > > > > > >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com > >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 > >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu > >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR > >> > >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to > >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an > >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 > >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very > >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us > >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do > >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two > >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. > >> > >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement > >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back > >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our > >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. > >> > >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We > >> decided not to call Coach about that. > >> > >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. > >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I > >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of > >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not > >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers > >> instead. > >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss > >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." > >> > >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos > >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. > >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning > >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in > >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the > >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 > >> that day. > >> > >> Doc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: > >> > >>> Doc -- > >>> > >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? > >>> > >>> Right 53 Veer pass, > >>> > >>> cs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Winedale-l mailing list > >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Winedale-l mailing list > >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Winedale-l mailing list > > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
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Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote: Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.net > wrote:
> Dear Doc, > > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a > particularly poignant page here. > > Love, > Alice > > >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >> decided not to call Coach about that. >> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >> instead. >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >> that day. >> >> Doc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >> >>> Doc -- >>> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >>> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >>> >>> cs >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
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I remember that performance, Doc. We wondered if many would show up to see us, but we had a decent-sized crowd.... or, so my memory says we did. (I Oberon'ed while the dear and delightful Terry Galloway Puck'ed -- of that much I am certain!!)
David K. ________________________________________ From: winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James Ayres [jayres@cvctx.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:29 PM To: Clayton Stromberger Cc: winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian <zinzabar@yahoo.commailto:zinzabar@yahoo.com> wrote: Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> To: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> Cc: "<winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org>" <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
-----Original Message----- From: Aubrey Carter <aubreycarter@sbcglobal.netmailto:aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net> To: Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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I think that may have been the first time we took Winedale on the road. I remember the bus ride and the small college theater. Thanks Doc for sharing all these memories. However I'd rather forget the 1978 Cotton Bowl,the first and last bowl game I attended. Bitter cold and a long sad ride home. Jerald
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
> I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith." > > The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later. > > The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" -- > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com > tlgalloway@aol.com wrote: > >> I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact." >> >> My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor. >> >> Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that." >> >> Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone." >> >> I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young. >> >> Love, >> Terry >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net >> To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade >> Aubrey >> >> ACDO >> 1401 East 7th Street >> Austin, Texas 78702 >> 512-472-3393 >> >> On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote: >> >> > Dear Doc, >> > >> > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged >> > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful >> > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game >> > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a >> > particularly poignant page here. >> > >> > Love, >> > Alice >> > >> > >> >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >> >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >> >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> >> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to >> >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >> >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 >> >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >> >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us >> >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >> >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >> >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >> >> >> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement >> >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back >> >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >> >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >> >> >> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >> >> decided not to call Coach about that. >> >> >> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. >> >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I >> >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of >> >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >> >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >> >> instead. >> >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss >> >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >> >> >> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos >> >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >> >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >> >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in >> >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the >> >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >> >> that day. >> >> >> >> Doc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >> >> >> >>> Doc -- >> >>> >> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >> >>> >> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >> >>> >> >>> cs >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Winedale-l mailing list >> >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Winedale-l mailing list >> >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Winedale-l mailing list >> > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
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Emma and I just attended the memorial service at the Erwin Center for Coach Royal. Earl was there, of course, and Doug English and many others. Willie sang. Mack and Ben Crenshaw said a few words. The Longhorn Band played. I'll write more about it tonight -- I bet they'll put it online soon. Em and I lingered afterwards a bit to take it all in. Doc, I said hey to Louie for you. He lit up -- he was talking nonstop to whoever he could grab. Then I took the opportunity to say hey to my childhood hero, James Street, and introduce him to my daughter.
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian <zinzabar@yahoo.commailto:zinzabar@yahoo.com> wrote: Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
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I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> <tlgalloway@aol.commailto:tlgalloway@aol.com> wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon <alicegordon@earthlink.netmailto:alicegordon@earthlink.net> wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres <jayres@cvctx.commailto:jayres@cvctx.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger <cstromberger@austin.utexas.edumailto:cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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speaking of those days, in the fall of '76, I took Robert Twombly's course on Death and Dying in the English Dept...Earl and wide receiver Alfred Jackson sat on the front row every class and talked a lot
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
> I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith." > > The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later. > > The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" -- > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com > tlgalloway@aol.com wrote: > >> I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact." >> >> My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor. >> >> Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that." >> >> Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone." >> >> I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young. >> >> Love, >> Terry >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net >> To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade >> Aubrey >> >> ACDO >> 1401 East 7th Street >> Austin, Texas 78702 >> 512-472-3393 >> >> On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote: >> >> > Dear Doc, >> > >> > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged >> > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful >> > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game >> > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a >> > particularly poignant page here. >> > >> > Love, >> > Alice >> > >> > >> >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >> >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >> >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> >> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to >> >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >> >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 >> >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >> >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us >> >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >> >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >> >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >> >> >> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement >> >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back >> >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >> >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >> >> >> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >> >> decided not to call Coach about that. >> >> >> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. >> >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I >> >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of >> >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >> >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >> >> instead. >> >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss >> >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >> >> >> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos >> >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >> >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >> >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in >> >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the >> >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >> >> that day. >> >> >> >> Doc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >> >> >> >>> Doc -- >> >>> >> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >> >>> >> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >> >>> >> >>> cs >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Winedale-l mailing list >> >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Winedale-l mailing list >> >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Winedale-l mailing list >> > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
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To themselves, or about death and dying?
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:49:54 -0600 To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
speaking of those days, in the fall of '76, I took Robert Twombly's course on Death and Dying in the English Dept...Earl and wide receiver Alfred Jackson sat on the front row every class and talked a lot
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
> > I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of > "Andy Griffith." > > > > The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to > talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible > coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were > around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you > might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of > Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching > and retirement a few years later. > > > > > The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that > evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The > Healing Hands of Time" -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com > > tlgalloway@aol.com wrote: > > > I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times > written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed > intact." > > > > My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they > described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley > describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good > humor. > > > > Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death > last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back > to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, > "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will > be glad to hear that." > > > > > Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, > "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you > were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You > quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national > championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone." > > > > > I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an > age that now seems to me so young. > > > > > Love, > > Terry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net > To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net > Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums > winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger > cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu > Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR > > > > hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade > Aubrey > > ACDO > 1401 East 7th Street > Austin, Texas 78702 > 512-472-3393 tel:512-472-3393 > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net > wrote: > >> > Dear Doc, >> > >> > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably >> engaged >> > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such >> wonderful >> > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with >> his game >> > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to
a
>> > particularly poignant page here. >> > >> > Love, >> > Alice >> > >> > >>> >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >>> >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >>> >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >>> >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums >>> winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >>> >> >>> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk
to
>>> >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >>> >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In >>> '69 >>> >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >>> >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked
us
>>> >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >>> >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >>> >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >>> >> >>> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked >>> arrangement >>> >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward >>> back >>> >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >>> >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >>> >> >>> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >>> >> decided not to call Coach about that. >>> >> >>> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic >>> council. >>> >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters.
I
>>> >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position
of
>>> >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >>> >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >>> >> instead. >>> >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. >>> Deloss >>> >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >>> >> >>> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at >>> Ciscos >>> >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >>> >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >>> >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds
in
>>> >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at >>> the >>> >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >>> >> that day. >>> >> >>> >> Doc >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> Doc -- >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> cs >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>>> >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Winedale-l mailing list >>> >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Winedale-l mailing list >> > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
To themselves, or about death and dying?
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:49:54 -0600 To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
speaking of those days, in the fall of '76, I took Robert Twombly's course on Death and Dying in the English Dept...Earl and wide receiver Alfred Jackson sat on the front row every class and talked a lot
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com
tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love,
Terry
-----Original Message----- From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade Aubrey
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
cs
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I wish I had been there.
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:38:44 -0600 To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net Cc: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com, "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Re: [Winedale-l] DKR To themselves, or about death and dying?
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:49:54 -0600 To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
speaking of those days, in the fall of '76, I took Robert Twombly's course on Death and Dying in the English Dept...Earl and wide receiver Alfred Jackson sat on the front row every class and talked a lot
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
> > Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on > back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 > Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it > was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the > sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers > said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still > raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet. > > > > Doc > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: > > > > I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of > "Andy Griffith." > > > > The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to > talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible > coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were > around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you > might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of > Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching > and retirement a few years later. > > > > > The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that > evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The > Healing Hands of Time" -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com > > tlgalloway@aol.com wrote: > > > I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times > written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed > intact." > > > > My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they > described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley > describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good > humor. > > > > Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death > last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back > to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, > "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will > be glad to hear that." > > > > > Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, > "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you > were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You > quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national > championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone." > > > > > I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an > age that now seems to me so young. > > > > > Love, > > Terry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net > To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net > Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums > winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Clayton Stromberger > cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu > Sent: Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:18 am > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR > > > > hey Alice...you were a Ram?...me too...7th grade > Aubrey > > ACDO > 1401 East 7th Street > Austin, Texas 78702 > 512-472-3393 tel:512-472-3393 > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net > wrote: > >> > Dear Doc, >> > >> > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably >> engaged >> > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such >> wonderful >> > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with >> his game >> > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to
a
>> > particularly poignant page here. >> > >> > Love, >> > Alice >> > >> > >>> >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >>> >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >>> >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >>> >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums >>> winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >>> >> >>> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk
to
>>> >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >>> >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In >>> '69 >>> >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >>> >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked
us
>>> >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >>> >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >>> >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >>> >> >>> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked >>> arrangement >>> >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward >>> back >>> >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >>> >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >>> >> >>> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >>> >> decided not to call Coach about that. >>> >> >>> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic >>> council. >>> >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters.
I
>>> >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position
of
>>> >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >>> >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >>> >> instead. >>> >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. >>> Deloss >>> >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >>> >> >>> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at >>> Ciscos >>> >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >>> >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >>> >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds
in
>>> >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at >>> the >>> >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >>> >> that day. >>> >> >>> >> Doc >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> Doc -- >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> cs >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>>> >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Winedale-l mailing list >>> >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Winedale-l mailing list >> > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
it was indeed an odd combination...Rob't Twombly, Earl Cambell and books about passage to another realm
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
I wish I had been there.
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:38:44 -0600 To: Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net Cc: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com, "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
about the class, the books
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Re: [Winedale-l] DKR To themselves, or about death and dying?
From: Aubrey Carter aubreycarter@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:49:54 -0600 To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
speaking of those days, in the fall of '76, I took Robert Twombly's course on Death and Dying in the English Dept...Earl and wide receiver Alfred Jackson sat on the front row every class and talked a lot
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:29 PM, James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com wrote:
Bringing up Earl, you remind me of a fall Saturday in 74 when we took A Midsummer Night's Dream to Texas College in Tyler. We had stiff competition that evening, since it was Earl's final home game.
Doc On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Joe Montana at QB, not the first time he'd break the hearts of Texas football fans ("The Catch" playoff victory against the Cowboys). Fred Akers the UT coach then.
On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com
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I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love,
Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
Dear Doc,
Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a particularly poignant page here.
Love, Alice
From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple.
He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time.
The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We decided not to call Coach about that.
I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers instead. He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss is not your UT "good 'ole boy."
Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 that day.
Doc
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
Doc --
Favorite memories of Coach Royal?
Right 53 Veer pass,
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...which is why I've always hated Joe Montana.
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jody Smith js24laser@gmail.com wrote:
1978 Cotton Bowl. It was the 1977 season and Earl's Senior year.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kris Adrian zinzabar@yahoo.com wrote:
Which year did we play ND with Big Earl? I remember watching that game at my grandparents' apartment while Mom and Dad suffered through that defeat.
From: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu To: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com Cc: "winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org" winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR
I remember crying alone (9 year-old boy) in my living room after that ND game, which ended the record win streak. I am pretty sure I haven't cried over a football game since. Not sure why I was alone, my parents had already moved on as the clock ticked down.
ND may have had the perfect wishbone defense, but the 'Horns also didn't have James Street.
Re missing the Big Shootout, Doc, I think you clearly made up for it by being there for the VY Rose Bowl and not drinking beer so you wouldn't have to miss a single play. I never get tired of watching replays of that one either.
By the way, KOKE FM in Austin (call letters sound familiar? -- Bob Cole is trying to revive the old playlist mix of Texas country music) is playing tributes to Royal -- next one is up at 9 a.m. CST -- do a search for KOKE FM listen live and you can listen in.
cs
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:41 PM, James Ayres wrote:
And then there was this. After the splendor of '69 and '70 at the Cotton Bowl, Coach invited me to the bench in '71: Notre Dame again. Linebacker, Scott Henderson had something to do with that invitation, I think. A very bright student in my Plan II class. I took Truman Breed along (of the Austin Breed and Co). Willie and Charley Pride were on the bench too. But none of us had any persuasion or influence as "honorary coaches." ND had a perfect defense for the wishbone. 24-11. Truman slept all the way back home. It is a long drive from Dallas to Austin after a loss.
The thing I most regret and think about every football season: In '69 Coach invited me to fly with the team to Fayetteville for the GAME. I declined in favor of another invitation: hunting trip at the YO Ranch. Wrong. Stupid.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 6:04 PM, James Ayres wrote:
Forgot to mention that Coach gave me one of his jackets. Big TEXAS on back. I like to tell folks that it is the one he was wearing in the '70 Cotton Bowl victory over Notre Dame. Still have it. Learned that it was neither waterproof nor warm at a very wet Baylor game in '80 on the sidelines with the team. We lost. In the dressing room, Coach Akers said only this: "Pack up, let's get the hell out of here." It was still raining as we boarded the busses. And very quiet.
Doc
On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Clayton Stromberger wrote:
I read that too, Terry -- Uncle Otis! Sounds like something out of "Andy Griffith."
The part that choked me up was when Edith talked about how he'd ask to talk to his son David and daughter Marion, who each died, by a terrible coincidence, in traffic accidents near the UT campus. You guys were around UT when Marion died, I think her car was hit by a UT bus, you might remember. I read once that Royal's heartbreak over the death of Marion was a contributing factor in his loss of enjoyment in coaching and retirement a few years later.
The article I sent yesterday told how Willie Nelson came over that evening and could find no words of consolation but instead sang "The Healing Hands of Time" --
On Nov 12, 2012, at 9:35 AM, tlgalloway@aol.com tlgalloway@aol.com wrote:
I just read a wonderful piece about Coach Royal in the Sunday Times written by Jim Dent, headed "Mind Faded but Wisdom and Humor Stayed intact."
My little sister Tenley works with alzheimer patients and the way they described coach Royal in this article is much in the vein that Tenley describes the people she works with -- with deep affection and good humor.
Here's the passage that made me laugh. " Three days before his death last week at 88,Darrell Royal told his wife, Edith;'We need to go back to Hollis."--in Oklahoma. "Uncle Otis died."Oh, Darrell, she said, "Uncle Otis didn't die." Royal chuckled and said, "Well, Uncle Otis will be glad to hear that."
Here's the passage that left me weeping." "He looked at me and said, "Was I a college player in the 1960's?" "No, Coach," I said, "But you were a great player for the Oklahoma Sooners in the late '40's. You quarterbacked Oklahoma to an 11-0 record and the Sooners' first national championship in 1949." He smiled and said, "Well, I'll be doggone."
I had no idea he was such a sweetheart. Or that he retired at 52, an age that now seems to me so young.
Love, Terry
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net wrote:
> Dear Doc, > > Thank you, from the essentially game-detail-clueless but inescapably engaged > former TH Rogers Jr High cheerleader and Longhorns fan, for such wonderful > memories/stories of your legendary friend and your engagement with his game > and life. You are a walking history book, and you've flipped open to a > particularly poignant page here. > > Love, > Alice > > >> From: James Ayres jayres@cvctx.com >> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:25 -0800 >> To: Clayton Stromberger cstromberger@austin.utexas.edu >> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] DKR >> >> Way back when Cliff Grubbs (Prof Economics) and I decided to talk to >> Coach about attempting variations of the wishbone. So we made an >> appointment to talk to him in his tiny office in Gregory Gym. In '69 >> I think. We had a super play in mind, a tailback pass. He very >> graciously welcomed us. When we told him about our idea, he asked us >> to draw it up on the chalkboard. We did. All Bertleson had to do >> when he received the ball was fake his forward movement, drop two >> steps and pass to an x standing alone in the end zone. Simple. >> >> He thanked us for the idea, then drew up his own chalked arrangement >> to show us why that would not work, given the aggressive forward back >> and blocking strategy of the triple option. He thanked us for our >> ideas and said we were welcome to come back any time. >> >> The following Saturday, Alabama ran our play---for a touchdown. We >> decided not to call Coach about that. >> >> I next encountered Coach in '78 when I was on the athletic council. >> We had meetings every week until '81 on athletic director matters. I >> discovered quickly (1) that he was not comfortable in the position of >> athletic director and (2) was very unhappy that the Regents did not >> select Mike Campbell as his successor as coach but chose Fred Akers >> instead. >> He also did not like our choice of Deloss as athletic director. Deloss >> is not your UT "good 'ole boy." >> >> Later I had lunch with him and his driver, Louie Murrillo, at Ciscos >> a couple of times a month to talk about everything BUT football. >> Coach introduced me to Willie on one Saturday bloody mary morning >> before the Willie Nelson one mile run at the Terrace Motel grounds in >> south Austin. I ran in that race and would have beaten Willie at the >> end but he had some of that tomato fuel I did not. We were both 50 >> that day. >> >> Doc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Clayton Stromberger wrote: >> >>> Doc -- >>> >>> Favorite memories of Coach Royal? >>> >>> Right 53 Veer pass, >>> >>> cs >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l
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