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NYC-area Winedalers
by Pees, Robert 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

All, Reminder: I'm compiling a list of NYC-area Winedalers. Please let me know if you are in the NYC-area. So far, I've heard from Michael Barker, Sharon Gary, Sheldon Good, Mary McGlynn, Mike Mergen, John Rando, Shanna Smith and Willie Wilson. And Alice Gordon, Robert Jackson and Mary Collins, I know you're in NYC either full-time or part of the year, and, unless otherwise instructed, I will also make sure you are on the list. James Loehlin, if you are aware of any non-Ancianos (that is., Winedalers from the last decade) in NYC, please let me know or ask them to email me, and I'll add them to the list as well. And if any one living west of the Hudson will be visiting or performing in NYC (e.g., Rude Mechs), this list I'm compiling might be handy for sharing info on get-togethers or performances. Best, Bob ____________________________________ IRS Circular 230 Notice Requirement: This communication is not given in the form of a covered opinion, within the meaning of Circular 230 issued by the United States Secretary of the Treasury. Thus, we are required to inform you that you cannot rely upon any tax advice contained in this communication for the purpose of avoiding United States federal tax penalties. In addition, any tax advice contained in this communication may not be used to promote, market or recommend a transaction to another party. The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message.

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Re: [Winedale-l] Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10
by Steele, William B. 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Thank you, Jerald, for remembering for all of us and remembering so well. And thank you Terry and Madge (Madge, I wished I could have met you) for your thoughtfulness for all of us, as well. Jerald, your perfect ramble brought back so many memories. One distinct memory is of another camp, in many ways like Camp Windale. Rob knows this other camp -- Camp Grady Spruce. A "Y" camp on Possum Kingdom Lake (the best lake name ever). I was the Pioneer Unit Leader at Camp Grady Spruce for the first half of the summer of '75, cramming in all the plays we had to read, between rain hikes and after-hours beer at the haystack. The year before, when Nixon resigned on that summer day in '74 -- as Jerald recalls -- many of us CGSers had been on an extended 3-day trip down the Brazos, wholly unaware of the event. Days before, we had been cheering Sam Irwin on as he put it to Tricky Dick in the Senate hearings. (The Graford Trumpet would bury any mention of the Watergators while plugging the Graham Gophers' Grahamcracker Jamboree on the front page.) Anyway, after three days on the river, at the end of our trip, Dick Whittington hiked up and got the Chevy Carryall parked under the Mineral Wells Bridge. The radio still worked in the Carryall back then. We didn't know why Whit was gone so long and later learned that he dropped by PeeWee's to get a sixpack of Pearl before picking us up. Beer drinking was not one of the approved tent activities, so when Whit handed cold Pearls to each of the counselors, including dewey-lipped freshmen, we should have been tipped me off that something was up. Then, Whit lifted his Pearl and asked us to toast our President. What!? Not the Trickster!!! "No, to the new President, the Honorable Gerald Ford." Could have knocked us over with a feather. The Pearl definitely did the trick. Now, back to my point. Just as I remember these details of the day Tricky Dick resigned when I was at Camp Grady Spruce, I also fondly remember Winedale, perhaps because Winedale was so much like Camp Grady Spruce. Eating together, sweating in blistering heat together. Group pow wows. Getting along with all kinds of different folks. And for me in particular, I was pretty clueless about what Shakespeare was saying in so much of what I read. But, there I was. I couldn't write home and ask my folks to come get me. Luckily, nobody seemed to notice or, if they did, they were good campers and didn't snicker in front of me or short-sheet my bed. Even though I viewed his verses through a glass very darkly, I was still digging the acting, the farting around with funny people, shooting the shit and playing pool, being on stage, making masks, and seeing all these very talented people bring to life that which I had to hack my way through. I was especially proud with helping to choreograph the "chase scene" from "Much Ado", involving lots of slamming open and shut up-stairs shutters, running around on the roof, poking heads in and out in Keystone Kops slapstick style. Anyway, somehow, the song of CGS and the song of Winedale harmonize like no other songs I know. I can't describe it, much less do it justice. Both are with me still. Somewhere. Not always where I can find them, much like my car keys. So, thank you, Jerald, and thank you, Alice, for getting so much of it down on paper, and thank you, Laura, for getting it down in pictures, and thank you, Terry and Madge, for remembering the folks who made it so great for all of us campers. Buddy ________________________________________ From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:45 PM To: winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 Send Winedale-l mailing list submissions to winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at winedale-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Winedale-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Barker, Michael) 2. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Aubrey Carter) 3. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Jerald Head) 4. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Valerie Malone) 5. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Alice Gordon) 6. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Clay Stromberger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:11:07 -0700 From: "Barker, Michael" <Michael_Barker(a)spe.sony.com> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <CBA3B19E464ADB4497217FAD4AFB6B190CB9F10B9E(a)USSDIXMSG22.spe.sony.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you, Madge and Terry. That's just great.\ m -----Original Message----- From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Madge Darlington Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:48 PM To: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums Subject: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. Thinking of you all. Love, Madge ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:39:49 -0500 From: Aubrey Carter <aubreycarter(a)sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <A0D81806-7DB6-4C6B-A5D2-4AD54C22CABA(a)sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes thanks madge...thanks terry...xoa On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her > flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion > but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much > she cared for the Shakespeare students. > > Thinking of you all. > > Love, > Madge > > <photo.jpg> > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 From: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, terry galloway <tlgalloway(a)aol.com> Message-ID: <1CCE0F6C-74F8-4319-B92C-DB5EA4FABA59(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Terry and Madge, What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures. We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. Jerald On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: > Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. > > Thinking of you all. > > Love, > Madge > > <photo.jpg> > > > Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:55 -0500 From: Valerie Malone <vmm(a)austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> Cc: terry galloway <tlgalloway(a)aol.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> Message-ID: <32CEA333-13E0-4C0D-B031-BC3EA3DA0662(a)austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, Jerald. Thank you for writing this down. When you told me the story this past weekend, I thought it amazing, and now to have it here for all to appreciate and to refer back to again - well, thank you. You made me cry. I have to go now to find the kleenex before I ruin my laptop keyboard. xoxo, Valerie On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote: > Terry and Madge, > What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures. > > We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. > > As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. > Jerald > On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: > >> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. >> >> Thinking of you all. >> >> Love, >> Madge >> >> <photo.jpg> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:30:07 -0400 From: Alice Gordon <alicegordon(a)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com>, Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Terry Galloway <tlgalloway(a)aol.com> Message-ID: <C8920F6F.135EC%alicegordon(a)earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thank you, Jerald, for slowing me down enough to send me back to Madge's email, for the picture attached which I hadn't noticed in my hectic race through emails. And thank you for this perfect extended recollection of the important, sweet beings missing from the celebration of this anniversary. And Madge, once again you prove yourself an indescribable treasure. Alice > From: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 > To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale > 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Terry Galloway > <tlgalloway(a)aol.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > > Terry and Madge, > What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you > to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us > with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith > Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in > the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful > meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those > efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a > time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a > family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would > serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, > and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before > Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to > knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most > special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of > chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I > waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No > matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy > chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a > simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the > members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, > Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, > fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared > to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the > early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how > much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For > the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, > chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us smoked then. To > have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on > formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. > See what just one picture of Angeline conjures. > > We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we > went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, > always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired > and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went > over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , > as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a > word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of > this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic > nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it > that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember > ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, > who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. > > As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our > lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer > with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I > struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as > our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. > And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to > remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, > and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time > takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. > Jerald > On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: > >> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from >> all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read >> about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the >> Shakespeare students. >> >> Thinking of you all. >> >> Love, >> Madge >> >> <photo.jpg> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:45:02 -0500 From: Clay Stromberger <cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <2C81FB9D-9C1F-4D70-8A31-76A54C8405F6(a)mail.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow -- thanks for this, Jerald. You took me back too. It was such an amazing juxtaposition, the world of the Barn and the world of the tavern. I remember the shock of seeing a television on over the bar late in the summer, showing a pre-season football game -- such a bizarre sight. Hard to imagine being that blissfully isolated today. By '83 we probably were a bit less connected to the store than in your day, but my first great Winedale experience (after walking into the Barn) was a dinner gathering over by the big oak by the lake, with all the community folks singing German songs to Dwight's accordion. Fried catfish or BBQ, can't remember for certain, but Ronnie's cooking was incredible. Edith Klump was still working at her son's restaurant as of four or five years ago (Doc can correct me on the date, but it wasn't too long ago), and she was still just as sweet as can be, though she must've been in a lot of pain at times, and was moving slowly. They sold the place in the last year or two and thus went the last tangible community link for me to the old days. cs On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote: > Terry and Madge, > What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of Angeline conjures. > > We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. > > As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. > Jerald > On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: > >> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. >> >> Thinking of you all. >> >> Love, >> Madge >> >> <photo.jpg> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator, UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055, cell #2 (backup): 512-363-6864 UT Sh. at W. office: 512-471-4726 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l End of Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 *****************************************

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Re: [Winedale-l] Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10
by Barker, Michael 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

This also reminds me of how much fun we had, Buddy. So great to hear from you. m ----- Original Message ----- From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org <winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: Steele, William B. <wsteele(a)lockelord.com> Cc: winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Mon Aug 23 17:15:41 2010 Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 Thanks, Buddy, for all of this. I do remember it well. Doc On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steele, William B. wrote: > Thank you, Jerald, for remembering for all of us and remembering so > well. And thank you Terry and Madge (Madge, I wished I could have > met you) for your thoughtfulness for all of us, as well. > > Jerald, your perfect ramble brought back so many memories. One > distinct memory is of another camp, in many ways like Camp Windale. > Rob knows this other camp -- Camp Grady Spruce. A "Y" camp on Possum > Kingdom Lake (the best lake name ever). I was the Pioneer Unit > Leader at Camp Grady Spruce for the first half of the summer of '75, > cramming in all the plays we had to read, between rain hikes and > after-hours beer at the haystack. The year before, when Nixon > resigned on that summer day in '74 -- as Jerald recalls -- many of > us CGSers had been on an extended 3-day trip down the Brazos, wholly > unaware of the event. Days before, we had been cheering Sam Irwin on > as he put it to Tricky Dick in the Senate hearings. (The Graford > Trumpet would bury any mention of the Watergators while plugging the > Graham Gophers' Grahamcracker Jamboree on the front page.) Anyway, > after three days on the river, at the end of our trip, Dick > Whittington hiked up and got the Chevy Carryall parked under the > Mineral Wells Bridge. The radio still worked in the Carryall back > then. We didn't know why Whit was gone so long and later learned > that he dropped by PeeWee's to get a sixpack of Pearl before picking > us up. Beer drinking was not one of the approved tent activities, so > when Whit handed cold Pearls to each of the counselors, including > dewey-lipped freshmen, we should have been tipped me off that > something was up. Then, Whit lifted his Pearl and asked us to toast > our President. What!? Not the Trickster!!! "No, to the new > President, the Honorable Gerald Ford." Could have knocked us over > with a feather. The Pearl definitely did the trick. > > Now, back to my point. Just as I remember these details of the day > Tricky Dick resigned when I was at Camp Grady Spruce, I also fondly > remember Winedale, perhaps because Winedale was so much like Camp > Grady Spruce. Eating together, sweating in blistering heat together. > Group pow wows. Getting along with all kinds of different folks. And > for me in particular, I was pretty clueless about what Shakespeare > was saying in so much of what I read. But, there I was. I couldn't > write home and ask my folks to come get me. Luckily, nobody seemed > to notice or, if they did, they were good campers and didn't snicker > in front of me or short-sheet my bed. Even though I viewed his > verses through a glass very darkly, I was still digging the acting, > the farting around with funny people, shooting the shit and playing > pool, being on stage, making masks, and seeing all these very > talented people bring to life that which I had to hack my way > through. I was especially proud with helping to choreograph the > "chase scene" from "Much Ado", involving lots of slamming open and > shut up-stairs shutters, running around on the roof, poking heads in > and out in Keystone Kops slapstick style. > > Anyway, somehow, the song of CGS and the song of Winedale harmonize > like no other songs I know. I can't describe it, much less do it > justice. Both are with me still. Somewhere. Not always where I can > find them, much like my car keys. So, thank you, Jerald, and thank > you, Alice, for getting so much of it down on paper, and thank you, > Laura, for getting it down in pictures, and thank you, Terry and > Madge, for remembering the folks who made it so great for all of us > campers. > > Buddy > > ________________________________________ > From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > ] On Behalf Of winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org [winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > ] > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:45 PM > To: winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 > > Send Winedale-l mailing list submissions to > winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > winedale-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Winedale-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Barker, Michael) > 2. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Aubrey Carter) > 3. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Jerald Head) > 4. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Valerie Malone) > 5. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Alice Gordon) > 6. Re: Thanks to Angeline (Clay Stromberger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:11:07 -0700 > From: "Barker, Michael" <Michael_Barker(a)spe.sony.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale > 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CBA3B19E464ADB4497217FAD4AFB6B190CB9F10B9E(a)USSDIXMSG22.spe.sony.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thank you, Madge and Terry. > That's just great.\ > m > > -----Original Message----- > From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org > ] On Behalf Of Madge Darlington > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:48 PM > To: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums > Subject: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > > Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her > flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion > but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much > she cared for the Shakespeare students. > > Thinking of you all. > > Love, > Madge > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:39:49 -0500 > From: Aubrey Carter <aubreycarter(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums > <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <A0D81806-7DB6-4C6B-A5D2-4AD54C22CABA(a)sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed; delsp=yes > > thanks madge...thanks terry...xoa > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her >> flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion >> but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much >> she cared for the Shakespeare students. >> >> Thinking of you all. >> >> Love, >> Madge >> >> <photo.jpg> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 > From: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at > Winedale > 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, > terry galloway > <tlgalloway(a)aol.com> > Message-ID: <1CCE0F6C-74F8-4319-B92C-DB5EA4FABA59(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Terry and Madge, > What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How > thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked > so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the > younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist > at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot > kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, > which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure > those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember > the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of > the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember such > fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, > but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had never > even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I was a > cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to knock off > our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the most > special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, > simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty > of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we > gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter how > much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and organic > vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a simple yet > luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All of the > members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and > Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant > black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God > knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how great was it to > see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early days. And then > there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say how much the > memories of these people fill out our experiences at Winedale. For > the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a > beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many > of us s > moked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , > flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early > years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of > Angeline conjures. > > We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in > 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the > presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this > community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be > respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the > historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it > were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said a > word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the > departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with > respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I > am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique place. > In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group watching > any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who died in my > last year at Winedale, 1977. > > As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those who > made our lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, > some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, > Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember all of their > names, in many ways as important to us as our classmates. We want to > remember them as part of our Winedale experience. And once again, > a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so thoughtful to > remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of > appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I > tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but her sweetness really > shines through. > Jerald > On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: > >> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her >> flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the >> reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and >> how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. >> >> Thinking of you all. >> >> Love, >> Madge >> >> <photo.jpg> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:16:55 -0500 > From: Valerie Malone <vmm(a)austin.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> > Cc: terry galloway <tlgalloway(a)aol.com>, Shakespeare at > Winedale > 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Madge > Darlington > <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com> > Message-ID: <32CEA333-13E0-4C0D-B031-BC3EA3DA0662(a)austin.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Wow, Jerald. Thank you for writing this down. When you told me the > story this past weekend, I thought it amazing, and now to have it > here for all to appreciate and to refer back to again - well, thank > you. You made me cry. I have to go now to find the kleenex before I > ruin my laptop keyboard. > xoxo, > Valerie > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote: > >> Terry and Madge, >> What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How >> thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked >> so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the >> younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist >> at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot >> kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, >> which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure >> those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember >> the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of >> the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember >> such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in >> Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had >> never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I >> was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to >> knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the >> most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, >> simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty >> of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we >> gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter >> how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and >> organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a >> simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All >> of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie >> and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that >> giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and >> firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how >> great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early >> days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say >> how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at >> Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, >> to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the >> day. So many of us > smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , > flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early > years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of > Angeline conjures. >> >> We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in >> 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the >> presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this >> community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be >> respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the >> historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it >> were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said >> a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the >> departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with >> respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I >> am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique >> place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group >> watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who >> died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. >> >> As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those >> who made our lives so special, those hard working German- >> Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the >> class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember >> all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our >> classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale >> experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry >> who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present >> her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. >> I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but >> her sweetness really shines through. >> Jerald >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: >> >>> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her >>> flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the >>> reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and >>> how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. >>> >>> Thinking of you all. >>> >>> Love, >>> Madge >>> >>> <photo.jpg> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:30:07 -0400 > From: Alice Gordon <alicegordon(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com>, Madge Darlington > <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at Winedale > 1970-2000 alums > <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Terry Galloway <tlgalloway(a)aol.com > > > Message-ID: <C8920F6F.135EC%alicegordon(a)earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you, Jerald, for slowing me down enough to send me back to > Madge's > email, for the picture attached which I hadn't noticed in my hectic > race > through emails. And thank you for this perfect extended recollection > of the > important, sweet beings missing from the celebration of this > anniversary. > > And Madge, once again you prove yourself an indescribable treasure. > > Alice > > >> From: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> >> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:51:54 -0500 >> To: Madge Darlington <mmdarlington(a)gmail.com>, Shakespeare at >> Winedale >> 1970-2000 alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Terry Galloway >> <tlgalloway(a)aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline >> >> Terry and Madge, >> What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How >> thoughtful of you >> to remember her and remind us of those who worked so quietly to >> provide us >> with such a remarkable experience. For the younger folks, Angeline >> and Edith >> Clump, who was also the organist at the Lutheran church, worked >> tirelessly in >> the hot, hot, hot kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, >> wonderful >> meals, which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am >> sure those >> efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember the >> meals as a >> time to gather as a group and process the events of the day, just >> like a >> family should. But as a foodie, I remember such fabulous meals. Who >> would >> serve hot lentil soup in July in Texas, but it was incredible, >> hearty, earthy, >> and delicious. I had never even heard of a lentil much less eaten >> one before >> Winedale. I was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we >> used to >> knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the >> most >> special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, >> simple, meal of >> chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty of the country >> garden. I >> waited for it every year. " When are we gonna have "Chicken in a >> Garden? "No >> matter what I do, no matter how much I spend at the Farmers Market >> on fancy >> chickens and organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste >> of such a >> simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All >> of the >> members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie and >> Delphine, >> Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that giant black >> cauldron all day, >> fueled only by longnecks and firewood. God knows what was in it. No >> one dared >> to ask. And how great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen >> in the >> early days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot >> say how >> much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at >> Winedale. For >> the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, to have a >> beer, dance, >> chat, decompensate after the trials of the day. So many of us >> smoked then. To >> have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , flirting, >> dancing on >> formal night. So many memories of the early years revolve around >> the store. >> See what just one picture of Angeline conjures. >> >> We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in >> 1974 we >> went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the >> presidency. Doc, >> always mindful that we were guests in this community, reminded the >> long haired >> and outspoken of us to be respectful of our conservative hosts, and >> we went >> over to watch the historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember >> the day , >> as if it were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no >> one said a >> word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the >> departure of >> this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with respect for the >> historic >> nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I am happy for having >> experienced it >> that way ,in such a unique place. In my four years there, I cannot >> remember >> ever as a group watching any other event on TV, not even the death >> of Elvis, >> who died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. >> >> As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those >> who made our >> lives so special, those hard working German- Americans, some who >> are no longer >> with us. The Austinites of the class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, >> Buddy and I >> struggled to remember all of their names, in many ways as important >> to us as >> our classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale >> experience. >> And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry who were so >> thoughtful to >> remember Angeline, to visit her, present her with flowers of >> appreciation, >> and send us that lovely picture. I am such a softy, I tear up >> seeing her. Time >> takes its toll, but her sweetness really shines through. >> Jerald >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: >> >>> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her >>> flowers from >>> all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said >>> she read >>> about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the >>> Shakespeare students. >>> >>> Thinking of you all. >>> >>> Love, >>> Madge >>> >>> <photo.jpg> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:45:02 -0500 > From: Clay Stromberger <cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Thanks to Angeline > To: Jerald Head <jlhead1952(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Shakespeare at Winedale 1970-2000 alums > <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <2C81FB9D-9C1F-4D70-8A31-76A54C8405F6(a)mail.utexas.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Wow -- thanks for this, Jerald. You took me back too. It was such > an amazing juxtaposition, the world of the Barn and the world of the > tavern. I remember the shock of seeing a television on over the bar > late in the summer, showing a pre-season football game -- such a > bizarre sight. Hard to imagine being that blissfully isolated today. > > By '83 we probably were a bit less connected to the store than in > your day, but my first great Winedale experience (after walking into > the Barn) was a dinner gathering over by the big oak by the lake, > with all the community folks singing German songs to Dwight's > accordion. Fried catfish or BBQ, can't remember for certain, but > Ronnie's cooking was incredible. Edith Klump was still working at > her son's restaurant as of four or five years ago (Doc can correct > me on the date, but it wasn't too long ago), and she was still just > as sweet as can be, though she must've been in a lot of pain at > times, and was moving slowly. They sold the place in the last year > or two and thus went the last tangible community link for me to the > old days. > > cs > > > > > On Aug 18, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Jerald Head wrote: > >> Terry and Madge, >> What a sweet and special thing to do, to visit Angeline. How >> thoughtful of you to remember her and remind us of those who worked >> so quietly to provide us with such a remarkable experience. For the >> younger folks, Angeline and Edith Clump, who was also the organist >> at the Lutheran church, worked tirelessly in the hot, hot, hot >> kitchen of Lauderdale House to provide amazing, wonderful meals, >> which allowed us to to pursue our efforts even though I am sure >> those efforts may have seemed a mystery to them. I always remember >> the meals as a time to gather as a group and process the events of >> the day, just like a family should. But as a foodie, I remember >> such fabulous meals. Who would serve hot lentil soup in July in >> Texas, but it was incredible, hearty, earthy, and delicious. I had >> never even heard of a lentil much less eaten one before Winedale. I >> was a cracker from East Texas. Mushrooms were what we used to >> knock off our crazy cousins. I have at times tried to recreate the >> most special meal,"Chicken in a Garden," without success. A plain, >> simple, meal of chicken on a large platter surrounded by the bounty >> of the country garden. I waited for it every year. " When are we >> gonna have "Chicken in a Garden? "No matter what I do, no matter >> how much I spend at the Farmers Market on fancy chickens and >> organic vegetables, I have never recreated the taste of such a >> simple yet luscious meal. Only my dear mother had such magic. All >> of the members of the Winedale staff deserve our thoughts. Rosalie >> and Delphine, Ronnie and Liz, cooking the Hunters Stew in that >> giant black cauldron all day, fueled only by longnecks and >> firewood. God knows what was in it. No one dared to ask. And how >> great was it to see Gloria? She made so much happen in the early >> days. And then there was Rollie and Marilyn Wagner. I cannot say >> how much the memories of these people fill out our experiences at >> Winedale. For the youngsters, the Wagner store was a special place, >> to have a beer, dance, chat, decompensate after the trials of the >> day. So many of us > smoked then. To have a Merit and a Pearl while discussing the day , > flirting, dancing on formal night. So many memories of the early > years revolve around the store. See what just one picture of > Angeline conjures. >> >> We were not as connected to current events as we are today, but in >> 1974 we went over to the store to watch Richard Nixon resign the >> presidency. Doc, always mindful that we were guests in this >> community, reminded the long haired and outspoken of us to be >> respectful of our conservative hosts, and we went over to watch the >> historic occasion and did so quietly. I remember the day , as if it >> were yesterday. We sat watching the devil resign , and no one said >> a word. If I were at home, I might have cheered and toasted to the >> departure of this hated leader, but we watched quietly and with >> respect for the historic nature of this occasion. In hindsight, I >> am happy for having experienced it that way ,in such a unique >> place. In my four years there, I cannot remember ever as a group >> watching any other event on TV, not even the death of Elvis, who >> died in my last year at Winedale, 1977. >> >> As I ramble on and on,, as an old timer, my thoughts go to those >> who made our lives so special, those hard working German- >> Americans, some who are no longer with us. The Austinites of the >> class of '75, Carol, Rob, Laura, Buddy and I struggled to remember >> all of their names, in many ways as important to us as our >> classmates. We want to remember them as part of our Winedale >> experience. And once again, a special thanks to Madge and Terry >> who were so thoughtful to remember Angeline, to visit her, present >> her with flowers of appreciation, and send us that lovely picture. >> I am such a softy, I tear up seeing her. Time takes its toll, but >> her sweetness really shines through. >> Jerald >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Madge Darlington wrote: >> >>> Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her >>> flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the >>> reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and >>> how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. >>> >>> Thinking of you all. >>> >>> Love, >>> Madge >>> >>> <photo.jpg> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________ >>> Winedale-l mailing list >>> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Winedale-l mailing list >> Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > Clayton Stromberger > Outreach Coordinator, UT Shakespeare at Winedale > College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin > www.shakespeare-winedale.org > cell: 512-228-1055, cell #2 (backup): 512-363-6864 > UT Sh. at W. office: 512-471-4726 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > End of Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l

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Re: [Winedale-l] Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15
by Sangeeta Shah 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

I'd like to see it, Daniel. I remember hearing about the filming. -sangeeta > From: winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15 > To: winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:20:23 +0000 > > Send Winedale-l mailing list submissions to > winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > winedale-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Winedale-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Virtual Winedale (Amy Oberst) > 2. (no subject) (Mike Godwin) > 3. Re: (no subject) (rcsouth0101) > 4. Re: Films that remind you of Winedale? (Daniel Sacks) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:06:03 +0000 > From: "Amy Oberst" <acoberst(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Virtual Winedale > To: "David Ziegler" <dzieglersf(a)hotmail.com>, "Shakespeare At Winedale > 1970-2000 alums" <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <784019254-1282345563-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-457767032-(a)bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > For the record, I've had an earworm of "I Only Kill Cats and Dogs" all week. Thank you, Jon Watson. You evidently have an awesome ability to write catchy songs. Use your powers for good. :) > Jon, you ought to post an MP3 of the song so the people who didn't attend the reunion can hear it too. > > Amy O. > Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: "David Ziegler" <dzieglersf(a)hotmail.com> > Sender: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:04:18 > To: <Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Virtual Winedale > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:11:35 -0700 > From: Mike Godwin <mnemonic(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Winedale-l] (no subject) > To: "Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org" <Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimUFX2Ty8hkMwigaS8gDEi0cq9gUJj+VMfMmdOx(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:22:21 -0500 > From: "rcsouth0101" <rcsouth0101(a)att.net> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] (no subject) > To: <mnemonic(a)gmail.com>, <Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <6EF1897DDF7C4A278934A9ACE3207AAA@optiplex9f59ae> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > There is a time for many words, and there is also a time for sleep. > Homer, The Odyssey > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Godwin" <mnemonic(a)gmail.com> > To: <Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:11 AM > Subject: [Winedale-l] (no subject) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Winedale-l mailing list > > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:31:05 -0500 > From: Daniel Sacks <danielmsacks(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Films that remind you of Winedale? > To: Clay Stromberger <cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu> > Cc: alums <winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <4658466300696280827@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Maybe the unofficial Winedale documentary called A Muse of Fire? Does that > count? It documents the summer of 2000 and Doc's final year as director. > > Clayton, you've already seen it, anyone in Austin interested in a screening? > > Daniel M Sacks > > > Sent from my phone; please forgive abbrevs, misspelings, poor punctuation > etc > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Clay Stromberger <cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu> > wrote: > > Hi all -- > > Enjoying the poetry exchange. In the meantime I find myself wondering if > folks have favorite films that remind them of Winedale in some way. (And > let's save some time and just say up front that "Fitzcarraldo" is not > eligible, okay...?!) > > The first one that comes to mind for me is "A Month in the Country," made in > 1987 with Colin Firth, a young Kenneth Branagh and a heartbreakingly lovely > Natasha Richardson. Unfortunately it has fallen into neglect and I hear on > Wikipedia that the one remaining print is finally being restored for a DVD > release. I won't attempt to describe the film right here, but if you get a > chance to land a copy on VHS, or it if pops up on a cable channel > (unlikely), check it out and see if the ending doesn't hit you with that > leaving-Winedale feeling right in the gut. > > cs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Ernie S. wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Thomas, Eric wrote: > > Thanks Katey. There are two poems that remind me of Winedale. Little > Gidding is one, here is the other. > > Eric > > PS ? anyone still have their Kenneth Patchen poem memorized? > > > >From *The Journal of Albion Moonlight *by Kenneth Patchen: > > Tom O'Bedlam's Song > > >From the hag and hungry goblin > That into rags would rend ye, > All the saints that stand by the naked man > In the Book of Moons defend ye. > > That of your five sound senses > You never be forsaken > Nor wander from yourselves with Tom > Abroad to beg your bacon. > > Chorus: > While I do sing: > "Any food, any feeding, > Feeding, drink or clothing. > Come dame or maid, be not afraid. > Poor Tom will injure no one. > > With a thought I took for maudlin > And a cruise of cockle pottage, > With a thing thus tall, > Sky bless you all, > I fell into this dotage. > > I slept not since the Conquest, > Till then I scarcely waken, > Till the roguish boy of love > Me found and stripped me naked. > > The moon's my constant mistress > And the lonely owl my marrow, > The flaming drake and nightcrow make > Me music to my sorrow. > > I know more than Apollo, > For oft when he lies sleeping > I see the stars at mortal wars > And the wounded welkin weeping. > > The moon embrace her shepherd > And the Queen of Love her warrior, > While the first doth horn the star of morn, > And the next the heavenly farrier. > > The gypsies Snap and Pedro > Are none of Tom's companions > The punk I scorn and the cutpurse sworn > And the raging boy's bravado. > > *[something missing here]* > > With a Host of Furious Fancies > Whereof I am commander, > With a burning spear and a horse of air, > To the wilderness I wander. > > By a knight of ghosts and shadows, > I summoned am to tourney. > Ten leagues beyond the wide world's end, > Methinks it is no journey. > > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Thomas, Eric wrote: > > Thanks Katey. There are two poems that remind me of Winedale. Little > Gidding is one, here is the other. > > Eric > > PS ? anyone still have their Kenneth Patchen poem memorized? > > > > To Be of Use, Marge Piercy > > The people I love the best > > Jump into work head first > > Without dallying in the shallows > > And swim of with sure strokes > > Almost out of sight. > > They seem to become natives of that element, > > The black sleek heads of seals > > Bouncing like half-submerged balls. > > I love people who harness themselves, > > An ox to a heavy cart, > > Who pull like water buffalo, with > > Massive patience, > > Who strain in the mud and the > > Muck to move things forward, > > Who do what has to be done, > > Again and again. > > I want to be with people who submerge > > In the task, who go into the > > Fields to harvest > > And work in a row and pass > > The bags along, > > Who are not parlor generals > > And field deserters > > But move in a common rhythm > > When the food must come in > > Or the fire put out. > > The work of the world is > > Common as mud. > > Botched, it smears the hands, > > Crumbles to dust. > > But the thing worth doing well done > > Has a shape that satisfies, > > Clean and evident. > > Greek amphoras for wine or oil, > > Hopi vases that held corn, are > > Put in museums > > But you know they were made > > To be used. > > The pitcher cries for water to carry > > And a person for work that is real. > > > *From:* winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [ > mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org><winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org>] > *On Behalf Of *katey gilligan > *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:52 AM > *To:* alums > *Subject:* [Winedale-l] Poetry Doc Read to Us in 1994, I Remember Now, > Here's for You > > *LITTLE GIDDING** > *(No. 4 of 'Four Quartets') > > *T.S. Eliot* > > *V* > > What we call the beginning is often the end > And to make an end is to make a beginning. > The end is where we start from. And every phrase > And sentence that is right (where every word is at home, > Taking its place to support the others, > The word neither diffident nor ostentatious, > An easy commerce of the old and the new, > The common word exact without vulgarity, > The formal word precise but not pedantic, > The complete consort dancing together) > Every phrase and every sentence is an end and a beginning, > Every poem an epitaph. And any action > Is a step to the block, to the fire, down the sea's throat > Or to an illegible stone: and that is where we start. > We die with the dying: > See, they depart, and we go with them. > We are born with the dead: > See, they return, and bring us with them. > The moment of the rose and the moment of the yew-tree > Are of equal duration. A people without history > Is not redeemed from time, for history is a pattern > Of timeless moments. So, while the light fails > On a winter's afternoon, in a secluded chapel > History is now and England. > > With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this > Calling > > We shall not cease from exploration > And the end of all our exploring > Will be to arrive where we started > And know the place for the first time. > Through the unknown, unremembered gate > When the last of earth left to discover > Is that which was the beginning; > At the source of the longest river > The voice of the hidden waterfall > And the children in the apple-tree > Not known, because not looked for > But heard, half-heard, in the stillness > Between two waves of the sea. > Quick now, here, now, always? > A condition of complete simplicity > (Costing not less than everything) > And all shall be well and > All manner of thing shall be well > When the tongues of flame are in-folded > Into the crowned knot of fire > And the fire and the rose are one. > > -- > Katey Gilligan > Masters in Science > Technology Commercialization > Red McCombs School of Business > The University of Texas at Austin > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l > > > Clayton Stromberger > Outreach Coordinator, UT Shakespeare at Winedale > College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin > www.shakespeare-winedale.org > cell: 512-228-1055, cell #2 (backup): 512-363-6864 > UT Sh. at W. office: 512-471-4726 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winedale-l mailing list > Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l >

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Poetry Doc Read to Us in 1994, I Remember Now, Here's for You
by katey gilligan 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

*LITTLE GIDDING *(No. 4 of 'Four Quartets') *T.S. Eliot* ** *V* What we call the beginning is often the end And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from. And every phrase And sentence that is right (where every word is at home, Taking its place to support the others, The word neither diffident nor ostentatious, An easy commerce of the old and the new, The common word exact without vulgarity, The formal word precise but not pedantic, The complete consort dancing together) Every phrase and every sentence is an end and a beginning, Every poem an epitaph. And any action Is a step to the block, to the fire, down the sea's throat Or to an illegible stone: and that is where we start. We die with the dying: See, they depart, and we go with them. We are born with the dead: See, they return, and bring us with them. The moment of the rose and the moment of the yew-tree Are of equal duration. A people without history Is not redeemed from time, for history is a pattern Of timeless moments. So, while the light fails On a winter's afternoon, in a secluded chapel History is now and England. With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, unremembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the apple-tree Not known, because not looked for But heard, half-heard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always— A condition of complete simplicity (Costing not less than everything) And all shall be well and All manner of thing shall be well When the tongues of flame are in-folded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one. -- Katey Gilligan Masters in Science Technology Commercialization Red McCombs School of Business The University of Texas at Austin

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(no subject)
by Mike Godwin 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

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Virtual Winedale
by jim cherry 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

https://winedale.s3.amazonaws.com/winedale_0.1.app.zip OSX Universal Binary standalone build https://winedale.s3.amazonaws.com/winedale_0.1_windows.zip Windows standalone build Hello friends! Above are links to virtual Winedale scene I put together in the last few days (screenshot here<https://winedale.s3.amazonaws.com/Winedale_scrape0.1.jpg>). Download the appropriate package, unzip, and enjoy! Note the quality and resolution dialog when you launch it; if you're in doubt as to the strength of your machine, try lower resolution and quality settings. I haven't spent much time optimizing this, but I'm releasing early, and hopefully often. I built it with a prerelease beta of Unity3, so there might be some bugs, YMMV. Only the barn is textured now, the other buildings are placeholders. My idea is to make this like a memory palace, where alumni and well-wishers can chat and tag locations with comments, stories, pictures, etc... Many of my most treasured memories are geolocated, as we say, at this place, and I know I'm not alone in that. I also hope this can benefit the endowment somehow. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone on August 14th! Jim Cherry, class of 85 and 86

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Thanks to Angeline
by Madge Darlington 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Terry and I stopped at Angeline's house in Carmine and gave her flowers from all of us. She didn't feel up to attending the reunion but said she read about it and was thinking of us all and how much she cared for the Shakespeare students. Thinking of you all. Love, Madge Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Winedale-l] Poetry Doc Read to Us in 1994, I Remember Now, Here's for You
by Barker, Michael 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Just astounding. Thank you, Kathy. m ________________________________ From: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: alums Sent: Wed Aug 18 22:51:38 2010 Subject: [Winedale-l] Poetry Doc Read to Us in 1994, I Remember Now, Here's for You LITTLE GIDDING (No. 4 of 'Four Quartets') T.S. Eliot V What we call the beginning is often the end And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from. And every phrase And sentence that is right (where every word is at home, Taking its place to support the others, The word neither diffident nor ostentatious, An easy commerce of the old and the new, The common word exact without vulgarity, The formal word precise but not pedantic, The complete consort dancing together) Every phrase and every sentence is an end and a beginning, Every poem an epitaph. And any action Is a step to the block, to the fire, down the sea's throat Or to an illegible stone: and that is where we start. We die with the dying: See, they depart, and we go with them. We are born with the dead: See, they return, and bring us with them. The moment of the rose and the moment of the yew-tree Are of equal duration. A people without history Is not redeemed from time, for history is a pattern Of timeless moments. So, while the light fails On a winter's afternoon, in a secluded chapel History is now and England. With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, unremembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the apple-tree Not known, because not looked for But heard, half-heard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always— A condition of complete simplicity (Costing not less than everything) And all shall be well and All manner of thing shall be well When the tongues of flame are in-folded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one. -- Katey Gilligan Masters in Science Technology Commercialization Red McCombs School of Business The University of Texas at Austin

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Re: [Winedale-l] we should have had them study us, huh?
by Alice Gordon 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

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