Per "the WMF is unwilling to keep the repositories around while we do all
this work". It has been stated that these repositories will stay around and
that WV will keep them up and running for months at least. Or have I
misunderstood?
Per "a read-only status" being impossed. The recommendation was just to
disallow further uploads not to stop editing of the content their from what
I understand. But even this is up for discussion. I personally respect
greatly the work done by WT and WV editors which is why I have been active
as much as I can in this process. The whole Wikimedia movement respect your
work which is why they have invited you to join it.
With respect to perfect verses speed agree that we need a balance. I guess
the other option we could look at is putting the initial startup in a work
space (similar to incubator). With respect to who can help. I am sure that
their are many editors on Commons who would be willing to jump in. Have we
begun outreach? Do we have a article that lays out the steps required?
James Heilman
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Peter B Fitzgerald <pbf5(a)georgetown.edu>wrote;wrote:
Realistically, the pool of people who will be able to
effectively work on
the image transfer is limited, and will not include more casual users who
notice the red links. We're doing a huge amount of work on the transfer
right now, but won't be ready to shut down wts and Shared by Tuesday--that
will make it much, much harder to do the necessary work: (1. check and tag
images on the original repositories, 2. transfer tagged images to Commons,
3. review transferred images on Commons and make sure they are properly
categorized.) Disabling edits to wts and Shared will halt tagging and
deletion of irrelevant files there, tying our hands behind our backs.
I also think that people might be underestimating the quality of work done
on WV and WT in ensuring that images are not copyright violations. In the
thousands of images we've tagged in the past several days, we've really run
into only a couple dozen images that required outright deletion. Many
images are "not free enough" for Commons, and will need to be transferred
to local WV language versions under a non-free content policy (under
discussion), but again, this will be an easier task if the repositories are
still editable.
I don't really understand why the WMF is unwilling to keep the
repositories around while we do all this work (some prior discussion with
the community might have acted as a useful sanity check...), but the facts
that a read-only status would impede the transfer process and that the
site-wide broken image links would make the project look bush league make
it seem worth delaying the move to the WMF altogether. Unless the WMF is
willing to reconsider how to handle this.
-Peter
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