Wikivoyage-l February 2013

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Reflections
by Mattias Sweden 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

Hello all, a few reflections from the swedish horizon, after a few days under the WMF umbrella: We have had an influx of serious, logged-in contributors, mainly from Wikipedia in swedish, but also a couple of new stars. That's great! We have also had a number of serious anonymous edits. That's even better! Of course, we have also had our fair share of vandalism, both anonymous as well as logged-in users. That's less nice, but it was expected. So, thanks to all involved, it seems we're all well on our way! Judging by the serious edits we have had on sv:, I have come to realise that two guidelines/policies are crucial to us in this phase of the project, namely "Welcome, Wikipedians" and "How to re-use Wikipedia content". The latter guideline has a correspondence on Wikitravel Shared ( http://wikitravel.org/shared/How_to_re-use_Wikipedia_content), but I do not see any current correspondent on any of the other language versions, except sv:. I checked the language versions (i.e. the ones currently online) and it seems that it:, nl:, pt: and es: lack "Welcome Wikipedians". All language versions except sv: seem to lack "How to re-use Wikipedia content". I'd like to suggest that anyone with lingustical capability, active on the language versions without these two guidelines, translate these guidelines, since it will be of great help to you. On sv:, we also added the aforementioned guidelines to our welcome message, in the hope that it may reduce the amount of explanation needed. It seems to work! All the best from a snowy and cold Sweden, Riggwelter/Mattias

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Re: [Wikivoyage-l] WIkivoyage
by Saqib Qayyum 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Hi James, yes you are right. We are getting late. We need to start it ASAP. I like the title you proposed. Go ahead with it and start the page and i hope more guys will join us later on. Saqib

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Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Settlement of litigation between Internet Brands and the Wikimedia Foundation
by Tilman Bayer 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Sharing some good news :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jay Walsh <jwalsh(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:10 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Settlement of litigation between Internet Brands and the Wikimedia Foundation To: wikimediaannounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org We've just published a post by Geoff Brigham outlining the settlement of litigation between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Brands, which is great news indeed. https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/15/a-victory-for-wikivoyage-and-free-kno… Congratulations to everyone who's been working hard on this effort. --- A victory for Wikivoyage and free knowledge Posted by Geoff Brigham on February 15th, 2013 Settlement of litigation between Internet Brands and the Wikimedia Foundation Today we are pleased to announce a settlement in the legal proceedings between the Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Brands relating to issues stemming from the creation of Wikivoyage, our community’s newest free knowledge project. We regard this settlement as a victory for the Wikimedia movement, and a vindication of our values and beliefs. Our community expressed a strong desire to create a new, freely shareable, non-commercial travel guide. In response, Internet Brands (owners of a for-profit wiki-based travel project) sued two Wikimedians visibly involved in supporting the travel guide. Internet Brands branded the proposed new site an “Infringing Website” and claimed that the volunteers were acting “for the benefit of the Wikimedia Foundation” to “usurp” the community of users of Internet Brands’ site and taking actions that included “deliberately misleading statements, and Trademark infringement and violation of Internet Brands’ intellectual property rights.” Internet Brands identified the “Wikimedia Foundation, members of its Board, and other members of the Foundation” as potential “co-conspirators” who were “corrupt in this scheme”. Unintimidated, the Foundation moved in to defend our volunteers and to protect our community’s right to an open and meaningful discussion about the project. We contacted one of the most respected law firms working in this field, Cooley LLP, and asked that they represent and defend the two volunteers facing legal action from Internet Brands. Cooley was engaged, and with our financial support, the volunteers moved the case to federal court and also filed an anti-SLAPP motion against Internet Brands, alleging that their freedom to openly discuss the project was under threat. Internet Brands responded by abandoning its federal claim, essentially admitting it had no factual basis. The federal court then dismissed all of Internet Brands’ remaining claims. Meanwhile, in September 2012 the Wikimedia Foundation filed its own lawsuit against Internet Brands seeking a declaration from the court that Internet Brands had no proper basis to block the wiki travel project. The settlement was signed on February 14, 2013, and Internet Brands has now released the Foundation and Wikivoyage e.V. (the German not for profit who worked so hard to make the project a success) from any and all claims related in any manner to the creation and operation of the wiki travel project. In return, the Foundation will dismiss the suit. Wikivoyage is now officially launched and growing, with about 9000 new entries added in the first month, and new language versions in Polish, Romanian, Finnish, Hungarian, Chinese and Japanese being opened. The Wikimedia Foundation believes there is enough room for multiple travel sites to co-exist, and for community members to contribute to multiple sites in this area. Our Executive Director, Sue Gardner, outlined this perspective in a post to the original travel project discussion. We have stood by this belief from the beginning, and we believe that a successful, freely-shareable, non-commercial travel project will help support the overall quantity and quality of travel information on the web. We thank and recognize our global community of volunteers, particularly the pioneers of the Wikivoyage project for their dedication and focus in making the project possible. I want to thank my colleagues at the Foundation in many different departments for their hard work on this case. We are also grateful to our friends at Cooley LLP for their continuous support, tireless dedication, and outstanding legal counsel through these challenges. It’s now possible for the Wikivoyage community to continue their efforts to build a global free-knowledge travel site unhindered. We wish them the best of luck and look forward to working closely with the Wikivoyage community as the project grows and thrives. Geoff Brigham, General Counsel -- Jay Walsh Senior Director, Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 6609, @jansonw _______________________________________________ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l _______________________________________________ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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Bureaucrat rights... or not?
by Mattias Sweden 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Is it just me... or why cannot I, as a bureaucrat on sv:, not de-sysop inactive admins? There is no problem for me to assign admin rights to any user, but... apparently not de-sysop someone. it used to work just fine, so I assume this is a Wikimedia feature which I haven't been aware of. //Mattias

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WIkivoyage
by James Heilman 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

Hey All I still see no talks regarding the Wikivoyage here yet http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Submissions We need to move on this as an outreach effort to the wider community. How about we call it "Creating a new sister project, the re-birth of Wikivoyage" -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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