Dear All,
After read this all post first congratulation to the team for the MoA. But i
need to know something about one issue & i think its need to share with
all. As far as i know we have three option for Bangladesh.
1. A trust under Ministry of law (under trust act)
2. A Society Under Society Act (This one proposed)
3. A registration from Social Welfare depart.
Could any one explain why we go for option 2. I am not a legal person so it
would be better if anyone explain why we go for society act.
Thanks
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Ragib Hasan <ragibhasan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Belayet,
I greatly appreciate that you have started a discussion about the MoA.
For your information, the memorandum is not final until we get the
final approval. The “Done” means we are done with submitting the draft
MoA. But we can change in case of any concerning issues raised by
ChapCom or the community.
Of course, anyone can ask for a change to the MoA. So, please feel
free to propose any changes here. But please be specific about the
justification and benefits of the requested change.
And it's very much appreciated that the persons you mentioned in your
mail care about community, not position/titles. We have twenty
sections in the proposed MoA to check and review, which all can review
for the community.
Ragib
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Belayet Hossain <bellayet(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I'd like to thank Nasir, he mentioned we
altogether tried before to form
the
chapter. I don't agree to use the term
"failed" with the initiative that
we
all have taken before. We wanted to inform and
aware about the need and
importance of a Chapter, and we tried with our various efforts. Now we
can
see our results, lots of people are coming
forward to take the flag
ahead.
At the meta page the status of the memorandum is set as "Done". Is that
is
for the draft is done or the memorandum is final?
And some signatories
said
that the memorandum has been sent to the ChapCom
for review. If the draft
is
done but not finalize then there is scope of
discussion and change. But
if
it is final and submitted to the ChapCom, is it
possible to discuss about
it
and change it? If people want to comment on the
clauses, how they should
approach? Should they discuss it at the mailing list or ask to the
signatories or discuss it at the talk page of the memorandum page?
Previously I encourage peoples to be a part of the Chapter. Some of them
are
still active who really feeling left out. They
don't have interest for
any
post at the executive board of the Chapter. Since
they worked hard for
the
chapter and has feelings and soft corner for
this. Couple of them shown
interest to be a signatory and asked how would they do it. Is there any
way
to include active people worked for the chapter
at the signatories list?
Should they apply to the existing signatories or should they edit the
wiki
pages and include their names by their own. Or if
they express their
interest to the mailing list, is it possible to include them to the list?
Our future can be bright. Let's make it together.
Belayet
On 27 May 2011 02:55, nasir khan <nasir8891(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> When i was reading the previous posts i found that some of you are
> interpreting this step in different ways. As Bellayet bhai, Tanvir and
some
> others mentioned that we have tried before to
form the chapter. I was
> involved there, and those times we first announced that we were going to
> form a chapter. Then initially a large number of people showed their
> interest. We made the plans and discuss on it but unfortunately the
> initiative was failed.
>
> This one is one of the reasons to work primarily in a closed group. And
> here we (the signatories of MoA) just made a draft Memorandum of
Association
> of our organization and then announcing that,
the process has started
and
> every one should join now. The only
difference is here the announcement
has
> came when the draft bylaws is ready and
previously the announcement and
> discussion was the only step.
>
> Now there are a lots of tasks to do. like the draft of MoA could be
> reviewed, plans have to made that what events could be done after the
> approval and so on. If someone thought that some of us just made a team
and
> declaring that we have all the powers, then
it will be wrong. We just
tried
> to start the process only and as mentioned
int he MoA the formal
executive
> committee will be elected in a transparent
process.
>
>
> regards
>
> Nasir Khan Saikat
> user:nasir8891
>
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Tanvir Rahman <wikitanvir(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear everyone,
>>
>> I want to clear few things myself. As Shabab bhai said earlier, we have
>> been trying to form our local chapter for almost two years. If I
remember
>> that correctly, last time, we have
discussed that in October 2009. We
met in
>> our fifth Dhaka meet-up [1]. We discussed
about forming the chapter
there,
>> we participated in many IRC meetings on
#wikimedia-bd channel. I,
myself was
>> in that process. We talked about
preparing the MoA, and some necessary
>> stuffs to create the chapter. We did not discuss about chapter set-up
>> committee in our mailing list that time either. We created the team
with
the
>> persons who participated in that meet-up.
We just assumed good faith
that
>> those people who attended in that
meet-up, and sacrificed their money
and
>> time, were the really interested ones.
But unfortunately that effort
did not
>> work.
>>
>> But this time, we have given this process a real kick-start at least,
and
>> what we really did here? We just formed a
little team of interested
persons
>> to work in this process. If any of you
think this team is the so called
>> “authority”, then no, it's clearly not like that. As everybody said
here,
>> real authority will be elected by the
community members. And as of now,
we
>> have done only two things:
>>
>> a) We have prepared the “draft” Memorandum of Association of our
>> organization.
>> b) We contacted to chapters committee, and told them we are interested
to
>> form the chapter this time. This is just
one step ahead; we stepped up
to
>> planned chapter from a chapter in
discussion phase [2].
>>
>> None of them is no big deal. Actually, this is some boring paper works.
>> And very few people are interested in this kind of stuffs.
>>
>> And if you are thinking about autocracy, then I have to say, every
>> chapter or organization has an approved bylaws (for any legal purpose),
and
>> every member of that organization
(including office bearers and board
>> members) have to maintain that. This is not optional. It's obvious.
>>
>> As Tonmoy bhai and Austin has said above, I think you all better
discuss
>> here about the only real ting we have
really done so far, the bylaws.
If you
>> have any disagreement or comment or just
a wishful feedback on that,
please
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