On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Belayet Hossain <
bellayet@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to thank Nasir, he mentioned we altogether tried before to form the
> chapter. I don't agree to use the term "failed" with the initiative that we
> all have taken before. We wanted to inform and aware about the need and
> importance of a Chapter, and we tried with our various efforts. Now we can
> see our results, lots of people are coming forward to take the flag ahead.
>
> At the meta page the status of the memorandum is set as "Done". Is that is
> for the draft is done or the memorandum is final? And some signatories said
> that the memorandum has been sent to the ChapCom for review. If the draft is
> done but not finalize then there is scope of discussion and change. But if
> it is final and submitted to the ChapCom, is it possible to discuss about it
> and change it? If people want to comment on the clauses, how they should
> approach? Should they discuss it at the mailing list or ask to the
> signatories or discuss it at the talk page of the memorandum page?
>
> Previously I encourage peoples to be a part of the Chapter. Some of them are
> still active who really feeling left out. They don't have interest for any
> post at the executive board of the Chapter. Since they worked hard for the
> chapter and has feelings and soft corner for this. Couple of them shown
> interest to be a signatory and asked how would they do it. Is there any way
> to include active people worked for the chapter at the signatories list?
> Should they apply to the existing signatories or should they edit the wiki
> pages and include their names by their own. Or if they express their
> interest to the mailing list, is it possible to include them to the list?
>
> Our future can be bright. Let's make it together.
>
> Belayet
>
> On 27 May 2011 02:55, nasir khan <
nasir8891@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> When i was reading the previous posts i found that some of you are
>> interpreting this step in different ways. As Bellayet bhai, Tanvir and some
>> others mentioned that we have tried before to form the chapter. I was
>> involved there, and those times we first announced that we were going to
>> form a chapter. Then initially a large number of people showed their
>> interest. We made the plans and discuss on it but unfortunately the
>> initiative was failed.
>>
>> This one is one of the reasons to work primarily in a closed group. And
>> here we (the signatories of MoA) just made a draft Memorandum of Association
>> of our organization and then announcing that, the process has started and
>> every one should join now. The only difference is here the announcement has
>> came when the draft bylaws is ready and previously the announcement and
>> discussion was the only step.
>>
>> Now there are a lots of tasks to do. like the draft of MoA could be
>> reviewed, plans have to made that what events could be done after the
>> approval and so on. If someone thought that some of us just made a team and
>> declaring that we have all the powers, then it will be wrong. We just tried
>> to start the process only and as mentioned int he MoA the formal executive
>> committee will be elected in a transparent process.
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Nasir Khan Saikat
>> user:nasir8891
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Tanvir Rahman <
wikitanvir@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear everyone,
>>>
>>> I want to clear few things myself. As Shabab bhai said earlier, we have
>>> been trying to form our local chapter for almost two years. If I remember
>>> that correctly, last time, we have discussed that in October 2009. We met in
>>> our fifth Dhaka meet-up [1]. We discussed about forming the chapter there,
>>> we participated in many IRC meetings on #wikimedia-bd channel. I, myself was
>>> in that process. We talked about preparing the MoA, and some necessary
>>> stuffs to create the chapter. We did not discuss about chapter set-up
>>> committee in our mailing list that time either. We created the team with the
>>> persons who participated in that meet-up. We just assumed good faith that
>>> those people who attended in that meet-up, and sacrificed their money and
>>> time, were the really interested ones. But unfortunately that effort did not
>>> work.
>>>
>>> But this time, we have given this process a real kick-start at least, and
>>> what we really did here? We just formed a little team of interested persons
>>> to work in this process. If any of you think this team is the so called
>>> “authority”, then no, it's clearly not like that. As everybody said here,
>>> real authority will be elected by the community members. And as of now, we
>>> have done only two things:
>>>
>>> a) We have prepared the “draft” Memorandum of Association of our
>>> organization.
>>> b) We contacted to chapters committee, and told them we are interested to
>>> form the chapter this time. This is just one step ahead; we stepped up to
>>> planned chapter from a chapter in discussion phase [2].
>>>
>>> None of them is no big deal. Actually, this is some boring paper works.
>>> And very few people are interested in this kind of stuffs.
>>>
>>> And if you are thinking about autocracy, then I have to say, every
>>> chapter or organization has an approved bylaws (for any legal purpose), and
>>> every member of that organization (including office bearers and board
>>> members) have to maintain that. This is not optional. It's obvious.
>>>
>>> As Tonmoy bhai and Austin has said above, I think you all better discuss
>>> here about the only real ting we have really done so far, the bylaws. If you
>>> have any disagreement or comment or just a wishful feedback on that, please
>>> share this here with us.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tanvir Rahman
>>>
http://bit.ly/wikitanvir
>>>
>>> [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Dhaka/Dhaka5
>>> [2]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters#Planned_chapters
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>> --
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