Hi, I just want to say that sr.wikinews is finally fully functional :) OK, a number of other things should be fixed (for example, featured news is form September 30th), but since November 7th there are daily news from Serbia.
I hope that we'll get some new Wikinewsians in the near future.
I wouldn't go into the public yet because there are a lot of things to be fixed, but I hope that it would be possible during December.
BTW, is there any Wikinewsian near Serbia (or at least in Europe)? (OK, I know that there are some Wikinewsian from Europe :) ) It would be good to make Wikinews promotion in Serbia between January and March with foreign guests.
It should be mentioned that we have a deal with news agency Beta [1] for reemitting their short news. Explicitly, we have a deal for their news in Serbian. However, it is possible to make a deal for English, Albanian, Romani and Hungarian. (However, I see that there is only Wikinews in English.)
[1] - http://www.beta.co.yu/
Great to hear another Wikinews is about to launch. If sr.wikipedia has a newsletter you need to get a call for participation in it.
From the perspective of the English Wikinews we'd love if you can help
translate sr. stories over and someone should copyedit them. We get very little news from your part of the world and having local reporters getting stories out to a wider audience is always welcome.
We should be able to help you get set up with an RSS feed and a ticker like en.wikinews once you're public. I believe CraigSpurrier is the person to speak to about that.
Can you explain more about this arrangement with Beta? I'm not exactly clear if they're dual licensing stuff CC-BY 2.5 for you, or want to pick up your material, or - as is ideal - both.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Milos Rancic Sent: 10 November 2007 11:37 To: wikinews-l@wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] sr.wikinews is working
Hi, I just want to say that sr.wikinews is finally fully functional :) OK, a number of other things should be fixed (for example, featured news is form September 30th), but since November 7th there are daily news from Serbia.
I hope that we'll get some new Wikinewsians in the near future.
I wouldn't go into the public yet because there are a lot of things to be fixed, but I hope that it would be possible during December.
BTW, is there any Wikinewsian near Serbia (or at least in Europe)? (OK, I know that there are some Wikinewsian from Europe :) ) It would be good to make Wikinews promotion in Serbia between January and March with foreign guests.
It should be mentioned that we have a deal with news agency Beta [1] for reemitting their short news. Explicitly, we have a deal for their news in Serbian. However, it is possible to make a deal for English, Albanian, Romani and Hungarian. (However, I see that there is only Wikinews in English.)
[1] - http://www.beta.co.yu/
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On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 11:55 +0100, Brian McNeil wrote:
Great to hear another Wikinews is about to launch. If sr.wikipedia has a newsletter you need to get a call for participation in it.
The most of people from sr.wikipedia I know personally and they are introduced in Wikinews launch. However, I didn't make explicit call to all of them because I am waiting to see is my concept (getting Beta news from Serbia and one or two science/technology news written by me) is working. However, I'll make a call soon.
We should be able to help you get set up with an RSS feed and a ticker like en.wikinews once you're public. I believe CraigSpurrier is the person to speak to about that.
Yes, it would be helpful. We have one bot (operated by User:Kaster, who was maintaining the project from the beginning up to now) which is synchronizing weather data.
I reorganized sr.wikinews to be compatible with en.wikinews and I want to keep it so. So, I think that making RSS shouldn't be a problem... Also, I'll start with adding interwikis between Wikinews:<date> aggregators.
The other thing which I would like for sr.wikinews is, of course, readers comments. Is it possible that someone of you asks developers for that? I know to say only "I want comments like on en.wikinews" :) but it is possible that it is not enough of informations.
From the perspective of the English Wikinews we'd love if you can help translate sr. stories over and someone should copyedit them. We get very little news from your part of the world and having local reporters getting stories out to a wider audience is always welcome.
Can you explain more about this arrangement with Beta? I'm not exactly clear if they're dual licensing stuff CC-BY 2.5 for you, or want to pick up your material, or - as is ideal - both.
They want to give their short news under CC-BY 2.5 for sr.wikinews :) Generally, there is no difference for them to keep or not short news under full copyright or CC-BY because anyone may copy their news from the site and use it de facto under CC-BY. So, we made a deal that they officially "makes a donation" to sr.wikinews (and possibly to en.wikinews) with their short news for linking their news back (which is WN default, but we are making an organized effort for adopting their news). In short, both Beta and Wikinews are not giving anymore which they were giving before and both of them are making benefits :) (At least for news in Serbian I'll try to make similar deals with other news agencies.)
We made a deal in May 2006, but I didn't have a time to implement it. When I started to do that, I contacted Ljubica Markovic, director of Beta, and we will make a meeting after November 16th to formalize the deal (Wikimedia Serbia and Beta should sign some kind of agreement).
I am using their RSS feed in Serbian [1] for news in Serbian. As all of the news are short, it is completely according to our deal. However, RSS feed in English [2] contains much more text per news and I am not sure are they willing to give those news under CC-BY, and I'll know that when we meet after November 16. Also, it may be possible to automatically connect news in Serbian with news in English because I will talk with a person from their IT department. So, ideally, no one should translate news from Serbian to English.
In this moment we don't have a lot of materials, so there is no sense to talk with them about picking up our material. The only original sr.wikinews articles will be two of my articles per day about science and technology (and maybe one bigger per week). When I realize that we have enough of unique material, I'll announce it not only to Beta, but to other media in Serbian, too.
BTW, do we (WN) have some admin on Toolserver? Or at least someone who may help me there? I don't know why my script is not working automatically... (If there is someone, please contact me personally.)
[1] - http://www.beta.co.yu/rssvd.asp [2] - http://www.beta.co.yu/rssen.asp
Great to hear of your successes thus far *RSS feed. You may also want to consider using the German Wikinews's approach (Feed on toolserver - http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/rss/dewikinews.php ) which is operated by [[:de:Benutzer:Dapete]] *Recruiting wikimedians: I recommend you send an email to ihavenews@wikizine.org to get a message out to announce-l. *Comment tabs: I (Bawolff) would be happy to help (Don't worry, I won't let all badness happen like i did on en ;-) *toolserver people associated with wikinews who are most likely able to help you: [[user:Matt]] (aka TheFarrow) and [[user:Zach]] **Other people who have an account on the toolserver [[user:Messedrocker]], [[user:adambro]] and [[:de:Benutzer:Dapete]] (I don't know that last person, just noticed it was a wikinewsie with an account)
Good luck
-bawolff On Nov 10, 2007 5:46 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 11:55 +0100, Brian McNeil wrote:
Great to hear another Wikinews is about to launch. If sr.wikipedia has a newsletter you need to get a call for participation in it.
The most of people from sr.wikipedia I know personally and they are introduced in Wikinews launch. However, I didn't make explicit call to all of them because I am waiting to see is my concept (getting Beta news from Serbia and one or two science/technology news written by me) is working. However, I'll make a call soon.
We should be able to help you get set up with an RSS feed and a ticker like en.wikinews once you're public. I believe CraigSpurrier is the person to speak to about that.
Yes, it would be helpful. We have one bot (operated by User:Kaster, who was maintaining the project from the beginning up to now) which is synchronizing weather data.
I reorganized sr.wikinews to be compatible with en.wikinews and I want to keep it so. So, I think that making RSS shouldn't be a problem... Also, I'll start with adding interwikis between Wikinews:<date> aggregators.
The other thing which I would like for sr.wikinews is, of course, readers comments. Is it possible that someone of you asks developers for that? I know to say only "I want comments like on en.wikinews" :) but it is possible that it is not enough of informations.
From the perspective of the English Wikinews we'd love if you can help translate sr. stories over and someone should copyedit them. We get very little news from your part of the world and having local reporters getting stories out to a wider audience is always welcome.
Can you explain more about this arrangement with Beta? I'm not exactly clear if they're dual licensing stuff CC-BY 2.5 for you, or want to pick up your material, or - as is ideal - both.
They want to give their short news under CC-BY 2.5 for sr.wikinews :) Generally, there is no difference for them to keep or not short news under full copyright or CC-BY because anyone may copy their news from the site and use it de facto under CC-BY. So, we made a deal that they officially "makes a donation" to sr.wikinews (and possibly to en.wikinews) with their short news for linking their news back (which is WN default, but we are making an organized effort for adopting their news). In short, both Beta and Wikinews are not giving anymore which they were giving before and both of them are making benefits :) (At least for news in Serbian I'll try to make similar deals with other news agencies.)
We made a deal in May 2006, but I didn't have a time to implement it. When I started to do that, I contacted Ljubica Markovic, director of Beta, and we will make a meeting after November 16th to formalize the deal (Wikimedia Serbia and Beta should sign some kind of agreement).
I am using their RSS feed in Serbian [1] for news in Serbian. As all of the news are short, it is completely according to our deal. However, RSS feed in English [2] contains much more text per news and I am not sure are they willing to give those news under CC-BY, and I'll know that when we meet after November 16. Also, it may be possible to automatically connect news in Serbian with news in English because I will talk with a person from their IT department. So, ideally, no one should translate news from Serbian to English.
In this moment we don't have a lot of materials, so there is no sense to talk with them about picking up our material. The only original sr.wikinews articles will be two of my articles per day about science and technology (and maybe one bigger per week). When I realize that we have enough of unique material, I'll announce it not only to Beta, but to other media in Serbian, too.
BTW, do we (WN) have some admin on Toolserver? Or at least someone who may help me there? I don't know why my script is not working automatically... (If there is someone, please contact me personally.)
[1] - http://www.beta.co.yu/rssvd.asp [2] - http://www.beta.co.yu/rssen.asp
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