We really should lift that from Craig and get it on the toolserver... or a server.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 19:11, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.combawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com

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Hi. Currently the english wikinews feed uses a somewhat complicated process. There's a bot that pulls articles from http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/T:LN into http://thenewswiki.com/wn/wnfeed.xml which is then fed into the feedburner feed. (From their the feedburner feed is syndicated into twitter facebook and identica).

Craig Spurrier is the one who maintains the bot, so he would be the one to ask.

cheers

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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Sri Sritharan kstharan@gmail.com wrote:

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Hello

I'm Kanags, sysop in Tamil Wikinews. I need some help in RSS feeds.

How can we include a short description of each news item (like in English wikinews) in the feed?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/LatestTamilWikinews

We would like to have one such feature in our Tamil Wikinews.

Any suggestion is much appreciated.

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CSpurrier's tool needs to be modified. Link should not be broken though, it just goes to the feed itself, which is not where it should go. (It should go to the main page of project in question, or be configurable) (Theres the potential a broken feed reader may not recognize entity references in url, but url itself is fine).

You are aware that the feed is using english category names, with an english description, and ordering by last edit? (Specificly you are using a feed with the following parameters: Get 20 articles from tamil language wikinews in category Published and not in Category:Disputed Category:No_publish or Category:Brief, ordered by last touch (aka last edit, or last time cache was flushed, etc) sorted by oldest edit first, with the title of the feed set to "Latest in Tamil Wikinews", and the description of the feed set to "Wikinews, the free news source you can write. For more information, or to see all stories, visit http://ta.wikinews.org" )

(Normally you'd want to order by the date the article was "published" (aka the date the article was added to the tamil equivalent to category:Published), not the last edit date. Otherwise if someone edits the article a year after it was written, the edit date (last touched date actually, things other then edits [like ?action=purge] can reset this) would reset the date. This is probably not what you want. Also, considering this is a feed for the tamil language, one would think that you would want to use the translation of the word publish for the category, not the english word. Similiarly you would not want to exclude categories which probably do not exist on tamil wikinews. Last of all, you definitly would not want to order them ascending (oldest articles first). Normally feeds show latest news, not oldest news.

Also If you plan to directly use the toolserver feed, it might be best to link to the toolserver instead of feedburner. -- - Bawolff Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Sri Sritharan kstharan@gmail.com wrote:

I have another question on feed.

In our Tamil wikinews feed, the link at the left hand top corner points to a broken link (points to tools.wikimedia.org, which does not exist).

How can I change it to point to ta.wikinews.org?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/LatestTamilWikinews

Thanks Sritharan (Kanags)

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jon Davis wiki@konsoletek.com wrote:

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We really should lift that from Craig and get it on the toolserver... or a server.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 19:11, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi. Currently the english wikinews feed uses a somewhat complicated process. There's a bot that pulls articles from http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/T:LN into http://thenewswiki.com/wn/wnfeed.xml which is then fed into the feedburner feed. (From their the feedburner feed is syndicated into twitter facebook and identica).

Craig Spurrier is the one who maintains the bot, so he would be the one to ask.

cheers

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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Sri Sritharan kstharan@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hello

I'm Kanags, sysop in Tamil Wikinews. I need some help in RSS feeds.

How can we include a short description of each news item (like in English wikinews) in the feed?

http://feeds.feedburner.com/LatestTamilWikinews

We would like to have one such feature in our Tamil Wikinews.

Any suggestion is much appreciated.

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Dear Craig & Bawolff

Thank you for your help in this matter. I've changed the (CSpurrier's) tool to (simple) default.

http://toolserver.org/~cspurrier/rss/rss.php?lang=ta&family=wikinews&... I'll wait till Craig fix his tool to point the link to the first page of the ta.wikinews.org.

Thanks for the help. Regards Sritharan (Kanags)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Craig Spurrier craig@craigweb.net wrote:

At the moment, the toolserver based RSS feed does not support category names in other scripts. It should be able to handle other scripts for the tile and description though. Getting this fixed is fairly high on my priority list, so hopeful English categories will only be temporary. -Craig

bawolff wrote:

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CSpurrier's tool needs to be modified. Link should not be broken though, it just goes to the feed itself, which is not where it should go. (It should go to the main page of project in question, or be configurable) (Theres the potential a broken feed reader may not recognize entity references in url, but url itself is fine).

You are aware that the feed is using english category names, with an english description, and ordering by last edit? (Specificly you are using a feed with the following parameters: Get 20 articles from tamil language wikinews in category Published and not in Category:Disputed Category:No_publish or Category:Brief, ordered by last touch (aka last edit, or last time cache was flushed, etc) sorted by oldest edit first, with the title of the feed set to "Latest in Tamil Wikinews", and the description of the feed set to "Wikinews, the free news source you can write. For more information, or to see all stories, visit http://ta.wikinews.org" )

(Normally you'd want to order by the date the article was "published" (aka the date the article was added to the tamil equivalent to category:Published), not the last edit date. Otherwise if someone edits the article a year after it was written, the edit date (last touched date actually, things other then edits [like ?action=purge] can reset this) would reset the date. This is probably not what you want. Also, considering this is a feed for the tamil language, one would think that you would want to use the translation of the word publish for the category, not the english word. Similiarly you would not want to exclude categories which probably do not exist on tamil wikinews. Last of all, you definitly would not want to order them ascending (oldest articles first). Normally feeds show latest news, not oldest news.

Also If you plan to directly use the toolserver feed, it might be best to link to the toolserver instead of feedburner. --

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Dear Bawolff

Yes you are correct. The url values should be urlencoded. Now it's working fine.

Still i'm awaiting an answer for my initial question. Why the link in the feed points to http://tools.wikimedia.org . It must point to ta.wikinews.org

Thanks sri (Kanags)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.combawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com

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I think Craig is mistaken on lack of support for non-en scripts.

http://toolserver.org/~cspurrier/rss/rss.php?lang=ta&family=wikinews&...

Appears to be supporting using Category:ஆப்பிரிக்கா

Just make sure the url values are properly urlencoded.

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On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Sri Sritharan kstharan@gmail.com wrote:

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Dear Craig & Bawolff

Thank you for your help in this matter. I've changed the (CSpurrier's)

tool

...

to (simple) default.

http://toolserver.org/~cspurrier/rss/rss.php?lang=ta&family=wikinews&...

...

I'll wait till Craig fix his tool to point the link to the first page of

the

...

ta.wikinews.org.

Thanks for the help. Regards Sritharan (Kanags)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Craig Spurrier craig@craigweb.net

wrote:

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...

At the moment, the toolserver based RSS feed does not support category names in other scripts. It should be able to handle other scripts for the tile and description though. Getting this fixed is fairly high on my priority list, so hopeful English categories will only be temporary. -Craig

bawolff wrote:

...

CSpurrier's tool needs to be modified. Link should not be broken though, it just goes to the feed itself, which is not where it should go. (It should go to the main page of project in question, or be configurable) (Theres the potential a broken feed reader may not recognize entity references in url, but url itself is fine).

You are aware that the feed is using english category names, with an english description, and ordering by last edit? (Specificly you are using a feed with the following parameters: Get 20 articles from tamil language wikinews in category Published and not in Category:Disputed Category:No_publish or Category:Brief, ordered by last touch (aka last edit, or last time cache was flushed, etc) sorted by oldest edit first, with the title of the feed set to "Latest in Tamil Wikinews", and the description of the feed set to "Wikinews, the free news source you can write. For more information, or to see all stories, visit http://ta.wikinews.org" )

(Normally you'd want to order by the date the article was "published" (aka the date the article was added to the tamil equivalent to category:Published), not the last edit date. Otherwise if someone edits the article a year after it was written, the edit date (last touched date actually, things other then edits [like ?action=purge] can reset this) would reset the date. This is probably not what you want. Also, considering this is a feed for the tamil language, one would think that you would want to use the translation of the word publish for the category, not the english word. Similiarly you would not want to exclude categories which probably do not exist on tamil wikinews. Last of all, you definitly would not want to order them ascending (oldest articles first). Normally feeds show latest news, not oldest news.

Also If you plan to directly use the toolserver feed, it might be best to link to the toolserver instead of feedburner. --

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