A couple of days ago, Mile, the most active sr.Wikinewsian, made an interview about Djavolja Varos. (To bi honest, last two years I was sick of mentioning that place for the so called "new seven wonders of the world".) He tried to find someone from the organization, but when he didn't succeed in that, he interviewed Ana, a Wikipedian and a student of geology. [1]
The interview became a real success. Mile asked "popular questions" and Ana gave very hard scientific answers. Interview on sr.wn became, probably, the only journalist article on the Net in Serbian with so rational answers on ordinary questions.
I realized one more thing: We (not just sr.wn) have a very strong background in many professionals and students in many areas (from Wikipedia). A geologist is especially interesting because she may give a short analysis of every tectonic movement, volcano or similar. But, we have a geneticist, too, which may give some rational answers about pig flu; and so on and so on.
I don't think that it is necessary to keep the form of interview. Instead of that, we may ask such experts to write journalistic articles about relevant events. And, this is not original reporting. This is analytic text about some event.
So, my question is: How do you see that kind of journalism? Of course, NPOV should be followed, but what more? Is something like that already defined on some Wikinews edition? If not, is there any specific reason for that? If yes, how did you do that?
[1] - http://sr.wikinews.org/wiki/Vikivesti_intervju:_Djavolja_varos_-_prirodni_fe...
Wikinews can take interviews how it wants, I wish I could read the sr. interview. We're already known for saying, "Wikinews is not paper" - that in itself is an invitation to have lengthy interviews, and to not cut off or cut short answers.
This is in stark contrast to mainstream media, and their approach with subject experts is equally dreadful. All they want is the 20 second soundbite to paste into the evening news bulletin.
We can't pay experts, so we can't get really notable people talking to us. I can understand then that final year students, or those working towards a PhD would make ideal 'near-experts'. I wouldn't let them drive the process as it could become too dry and technical, it needs the non-expert input to keep the content grounded where a majority of people can understand it.
I'd certainly be interested in a geneticist's take on H1N1 Swine Flu. We never get told how likely it is to mutate before the next northern hemisphere flu season - and even if mutation is likely to make it more deadly. Of course, you'd want a geneticist who was well-read on virus geneaology.
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Milos Rancic Sent: 23 July 2009 20:41 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: [Wikinews-l] Reporter-expert
A couple of days ago, Mile, the most active sr.Wikinewsian, made an interview about Djavolja Varos. (To bi honest, last two years I was sick of mentioning that place for the so called "new seven wonders of the world".) He tried to find someone from the organization, but when he didn't succeed in that, he interviewed Ana, a Wikipedian and a student of geology. [1]
The interview became a real success. Mile asked "popular questions" and Ana gave very hard scientific answers. Interview on sr.wn became, probably, the only journalist article on the Net in Serbian with so rational answers on ordinary questions.
I realized one more thing: We (not just sr.wn) have a very strong background in many professionals and students in many areas (from Wikipedia). A geologist is especially interesting because she may give a short analysis of every tectonic movement, volcano or similar. But, we have a geneticist, too, which may give some rational answers about pig flu; and so on and so on.
I don't think that it is necessary to keep the form of interview. Instead of that, we may ask such experts to write journalistic articles about relevant events. And, this is not original reporting. This is analytic text about some event.
So, my question is: How do you see that kind of journalism? Of course, NPOV should be followed, but what more? Is something like that already defined on some Wikinews edition? If not, is there any specific reason for that? If yes, how did you do that?
[1] - http://sr.wikinews.org/wiki/Vikivesti_intervju:_Djavolja_varos_-_prirodni_fe nomen_Srbije
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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Brian McNeilbrian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Wikinews can take interviews how it wants, I wish I could read the sr. interview. We're already known for saying, "Wikinews is not paper" - that in itself is an invitation to have lengthy interviews, and to not cut off or cut short answers.
Interview is a little bit dry, but very interesting to me. The questions and answers are in the next form: "What is Djavolja Varos?" "<a precise geological explanation which may be read by one relatively educated person>". Answers demystify popular position of DjV in Serbia as "a miracle".
We can't pay experts, so we can't get really notable people talking to us. I can understand then that final year students, or those working towards a PhD would make ideal 'near-experts'. I wouldn't let them drive the process as it could become too dry and technical, it needs the non-expert input to keep the content grounded where a majority of people can understand it.
Being an expert in some field (in the journalist sense) is not a big deal. I may guarantee that all Wikipedians educated in some field are good enough experts for any kind of newspaper, television and so on.
And, yes, we should work to improve their language from dry to interesting to the wider audience.
I'd certainly be interested in a geneticist's take on H1N1 Swine Flu. We never get told how likely it is to mutate before the next northern hemisphere flu season - and even if mutation is likely to make it more deadly. Of course, you'd want a geneticist who was well-read on virus geneaology.
We have one biologist on sr.wp and I have one friend who is biochemist. I'll ask them are they willing to give interviews about swine flu.
Hi...
I don't post often because I'm an observer at the moment more than anything but I thought this one was important...
On 24/07/2009, at 5:41 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
I don't think that it is necessary to keep the form of interview. Instead of that, we may ask such experts to write journalistic articles about relevant events. And, this is not original reporting. This is analytic text about some event.
How is that NOT original reporting? It is exactly that: original (ie: not just a commentary or rereporting of a mainstream news article) and a report. As a former mainstream magazine editor, expert columnists are an ideal source of stories provided they can write or you do an interview or you collaborate with them to make it readable.
Keep up the good work!
Phoenix -- "If you think you're too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito" -- Dalai Lama
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Phoenix Roseinspiral@riseup.net wrote:
How is that NOT original reporting? It is exactly that: original (ie: not just a commentary or rereporting of a mainstream news article) and a report. As a former mainstream magazine editor, expert columnists are an ideal source of stories provided they can write or you do an interview or you collaborate with them to make it readable.
Thanks for the explanation! I am not a journalist and my connections to journalism are through linguistics and my Wikimedian work. It seems that I've mistranslated "original reporting" as clearly "[original] reporting from some event".
BTW, I think that, in that case, all Wikinews should use that. To say again: We have a number of experts in Wikimedia community.
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