Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
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Ive asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an articles development.
The article Id like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a) because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation and coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania 08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so itd go from there, fake up the do you want to create this page message? for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that wont fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change being added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run it. Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michaels suggestion Ill go and have a look on the Water Cooler shortly still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steven Fruitsmaak Sent: 25 February 2008 19:31 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
_____
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is this going to be with a talk, or just to be stuck up somewhere running on a projector?
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an article's development.
The article I'd like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a) because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation and coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania '08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so it'd go from there, fake up the "do you want to create this page message?" for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that won't fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change being added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run it. Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template – hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michael's suggestion I'll go and have a look on the Water Cooler shortly – still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- *From:* wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Steven Fruitsmaak *Sent:* 25 February 2008 19:31 *To:* wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
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I will arrange for music to be added and it would run on a projector and be followed either with a talk, or a Q & A. The general idea is to have some good presentation materials for use at any event where there is a WMF presence. Having now read Michaels proposal on WN:WC I think the two things tie together nicely an opening video showing one of our best collaborative efforts and a set of slides with talking points such as how Wikinews has changed, how original reporting has increased, how we now get stuff listed on Wikipedia articles, and so on.
If you think itd be better with a voice-over wed need a script drafted and Id nominate skenmy to record that, in his best BBC presenter voice. :P
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark (Markie) Sent: 26 February 2008 09:53 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
is this going to be with a talk, or just to be stuck up somewhere running on a projector?
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an article's development.
The article I'd like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a) because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation and coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania '08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so it'd go from there, fake up the "do you want to create this page message?" for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that won't fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change being added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run it. Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michael's suggestion I'll go and have a look on the Water Cooler shortly still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steven Fruitsmaak Sent: 25 February 2008 19:31 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
_____
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this sounds really good, and id be willing to help you with this (if you need my help that is :-p). has anyone submitted this to the Wikimania system yet? for Q&A or talk this would be needed -> ( http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation and more specifically https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission) </end shamless plug>
anyways, hopefully this will be a nice presentation, and if its anything like its sounds then it will be :-)
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I will arrange for music to be added and it would run on a projector and be followed either with a talk, or a Q & A. The general idea is to have some good presentation materials for use at any event where there is a WMF presence. Having now read Michael's proposal on WN:WC I think the two things tie together nicely – an opening video showing one of our best collaborative efforts and a set of slides with talking points such as how Wikinews has changed, how original reporting has increased, how we now get stuff listed on Wikipedia articles, and so on.
If you think it'd be better with a voice-over we'd need a script drafted and I'd nominate skenmy to record that, in his best BBC presenter voice. :P
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- *From:* wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark (Markie) *Sent:* 26 February 2008 09:53 *To:* Wikinews mailing list *Subject:* Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
is this going to be with a talk, or just to be stuck up somewhere running on a projector?
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an article's development.
The article I'd like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a) because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation and coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania '08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so it'd go from there, fake up the "do you want to create this page message?" for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that won't fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change being added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run it. Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template – hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michael's suggestion I'll go and have a look on the Water Cooler shortly – still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- *From:* wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Steven Fruitsmaak *Sent:* 25 February 2008 19:31 *To:* wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
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Thats a great idea. After Wikimania, make sure to upload it to commons, as I want to see this thing :)
-bawolff
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Mark (Markie) newsmarkie@googlemail.com wrote:
this sounds really good, and id be willing to help you with this (if you need my help that is :-p). has anyone submitted this to the Wikimania system yet? for Q&A or talk this would be needed -> (http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation and more specifically https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission) </end shamless plug>
anyways, hopefully this will be a nice presentation, and if its anything like its sounds then it will be :-)
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I will arrange for music to be added and it would run on a projector and
be followed either with a talk, or a Q & A. The general idea is to have some good presentation materials for use at any event where there is a WMF presence. Having now read Michael's proposal on WN:WC I think the two things tie together nicely – an opening video showing one of our best collaborative efforts and a set of slides with talking points such as how Wikinews has changed, how original reporting has increased, how we now get stuff listed on Wikipedia articles, and so on.
If you think it'd be better with a voice-over we'd need a script drafted
and I'd nominate skenmy to record that, in his best BBC presenter voice. :P
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark (Markie)
Sent: 26 February 2008 09:53 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
is this going to be with a talk, or just to be stuck up somewhere running
on a projector?
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Brian McNeil
brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based
on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an article's development.
The article I'd like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a)
because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation and coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania '08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so
it'd go from there, fake up the "do you want to create this page message?" for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that won't fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change being added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run it. Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template – hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michael's suggestion I'll go and have a look on the Water Cooler
shortly – still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steven Fruitsmaak
Sent: 25 February 2008 19:31 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008,
maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
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I have started [[WN:WM2008]] for all our Wikimania ideas. So far I've put up the video proposal and a rough draft of a short talk that could be given.
I will now dig up Mark's link to the appropriate page on the 'mania wiki to add a link to this to.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of bawolff Sent: 26 February 2008 10:51 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Thats a great idea. After Wikimania, make sure to upload it to commons, as I want to see this thing :)
-bawolff
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Mark (Markie) newsmarkie@googlemail.com wrote:
this sounds really good, and id be willing to help you with this (if you need my help that is :-p). has anyone submitted this to the Wikimania system yet? for Q&A or talk this would be needed -> (http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation and more specifically https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission) </end shamless plug>
anyways, hopefully this will be a nice presentation, and if its anything like its sounds then it will be :-)
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Brian McNeil
wrote:
I will arrange for music to be added and it would run on a projector and
be followed either with a talk, or a Q & A. The general idea is to have
some
good presentation materials for use at any event where there is a WMF presence. Having now read Michael's proposal on WN:WC I think the two
things
tie together nicely an opening video showing one of our best
collaborative
efforts and a set of slides with talking points such as how Wikinews has changed, how original reporting has increased, how we now get stuff listed on Wikipedia articles, and so on.
If you think it'd be better with a voice-over we'd need a script drafted
and I'd nominate skenmy to record that, in his best BBC presenter voice.
:P
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark (Markie)
Sent: 26 February 2008 09:53 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
is this going to be with a talk, or just to be stuck up somewhere
running
on a projector?
regards
mark
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Brian McNeil
brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've asked symode09 to apply his video skills to make a short film based
on something I saw a while back that would fit nicely with that. The short description would be a stop-motion of an article's development.
The article I'd like to see this done for is the Anonymous protests (a)
because it is OR and (b) because it involved massive global cooperation
and
coordination. So, Deni, the deadline for that is a few weeks before Wikimania '08. Earlier if possible so I can get original music for it released under a CC-BY license.
If I recall correctly the article in question started in story prep, so
it'd go from there, fake up the "do you want to create this page message?" for the original title, then show the first revision. After that step through each revision, where the article reaches a length that won't fit on-screen you jump to where a change is being made and show the change
being
added. As pictures get added, show the picture inserted and perhaps then zoom it up for a second or so. When the video report gets inserted, run
it.
Finish should be a pause on the last version (hopefully followed by insertion of the Featured Article template hint, hint). Then fade to the Wikinews logo with space for credits.
For Michael's suggestion I'll go and have a look on the Water Cooler
shortly still got about 30 emails to go through this morning.
Brian McNeil
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steven Fruitsmaak
Sent: 25 February 2008 19:31 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Hi,
I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008,
maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
Steven Fruitsmaak
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Should be in the normal way (as described on the http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission page), just add all the information there with a link that page (external URL). Then, make sure that everyone has accounts and when they do, go to the "persons" tab and add them and their positions. I think this will give them read/write access to that event.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Brian McNeil wrote:
I will now dig up Mark's link to the appropriate page on the 'mania wiki to add a link to this to.
It isn't a wiki, it's some bizarre piece of junk that doesn't seem to let you collaborate.
How the hell do I put [[WN:WM2008]] into it?
Brian McNeil
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Okay, I've created https://wikimedia.pentabarf.org/submission/wikimania2008/event/18
PLEASE let me know when you've signed up via the link given below and I'll try and figure out how to add you to the Wikimania event so you can edit it.
As I've already commented I want at least three or four Wikinewsies on the ground at the event. Yes, we'll do a panel on the project and kick someone off it to do the original reporting on our event. That's probably going to be the hardest part of having people there.
Depending on circumstances, sponsorship to get there may be available, so do NOT say, "I can't afford it, I won't get involved". Even if prior commitments make it impossible for you to attend then you can still contribute to our event/session "bid". This is effectively a sales pitch on how we can participate in a more noticeable way than previous years. There will likely be opportunities to interview people such as Jimmy and Florence as well as keynote speakers.
Making it international has to be an aspect of this; if we can get people from non-en wikis involved it'd be great. The obvious case here is some of the Polish guys, or BrockF5 from Taiwan. If there are issues where these people may require visas prior to departure I'd be happy to pretend to be the chief editor again or hassle WMF and Wikimania people to write letters of recommendation.
Brian McNeil -----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Casey Brown Sent: 26 February 2008 23:44 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Wikimania 2008
Should be in the normal way (as described on the http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission page), just add all the information there with a link that page (external URL). Then, make sure that everyone has accounts and when they do, go to the "persons" tab and add them and their positions. I think this will give them read/write access to that event.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
Brian McNeil wrote:
I will now dig up Mark's link to the appropriate page on the 'mania wiki
to
add a link to this to.
It isn't a wiki, it's some bizarre piece of junk that doesn't seem to let you collaborate.
How the hell do I put [[WN:WM2008]] into it?
Brian McNeil
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