Note: this is in reference to the english wikinews
We have tons of personal photo's of users for userpages. most of them are not licensed freely, if licensed at all (some of them even claim they are ''fair use'' which is a total load of ...). I personally think that they shouldn't be on wikinews whatsoever (as they'd probably also be on the user's page at wikipedia, etc, and we currently have no policy's regarding them, so it'd just be easier to make them go somewhere that already has a policy), so I propose:
*All new self photo's for user pages go on commons, and follow their policies ([[Commons:Criteria for inclusion#Wikimedia_Commons_is_a_common_central_media_repository_of_all_Wikimedia_projects]])
*old ones can stay [at wikinews], we won't delete them for now if there inproperly licensed as the user clearly wants them here, or decide what to do with them later
*any new one's have to be at commons, or they go into the black abyss of death and doom.
note: I'm cc-ing this commons-l, as it concerns them, and I have no idea if they'll like it or not, so if they say no, its not happening. its also posted on the wc at wikinews.
--[[user:bawolff|Bawolff]]
While agree with you Brian, I do think we should stand next to our policies. I personally don't believe there should be ANY exceptions (including ones that were already there), but I'm probably not speaking for the community. Just think about it this way, do we allow exceptions to vandals, bias news, or unsourced news articles? No, we don't.
Hobey-ho, [[User:Terinjokes|#Terin]]
Brian W wrote:
Note: this is in reference to the english wikinews
We have tons of personal photo's of users for userpages. most of them are not licensed freely, if licensed at all (some of them even claim they are ''fair use'' which is a total load of ...). I personally think that they shouldn't be on wikinews whatsoever (as they'd probably also be on the user's page at wikipedia, etc, and we currently have no policy's regarding them, so it'd just be easier to make them go somewhere that already has a policy), so I propose:
*All new self photo's for user pages go on commons, and follow their policies ([[Commons:Criteria for inclusion#Wikimedia_Commons_is_a_common_central_media_repository_of_all_Wikimedia_projects]])
*old ones can stay [at wikinews], we won't delete them for now if there inproperly licensed as the user clearly wants them here, or decide what to do with them later
*any new one's have to be at commons, or they go into the black abyss of death and doom.
note: I'm cc-ing this commons-l, as it concerns them, and I have no idea if they'll like it or not, so if they say no, its not happening. its also posted on the wc at wikinews.
--[[user:bawolff|Bawolff]]
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I thought it was already our rule to upload free-use images on Commons and reserve Wikinews for fair use.
On 1/26/07, Terin Stock terinstock@bellsouth.net wrote:
While agree with you Brian, I do think we should stand next to our policies. I personally don't believe there should be ANY exceptions (including ones that were already there), but I'm probably not speaking for the community. Just think about it this way, do we allow exceptions to vandals, bias news, or unsourced news articles? No, we don't.
Hobey-ho, [[User:Terinjokes|#Terin]]
Brian W wrote:
Note: this is in reference to the english wikinews
We have tons of personal photo's of users for userpages. most of them are not licensed freely, if licensed at all (some of them even claim they are ''fair use'' which is a total load of ...). I personally think that they shouldn't be on wikinews whatsoever (as they'd probably also be on the user's page at wikipedia, etc, and we currently have no policy's regarding them, so it'd just be easier to make them go somewhere that already has a policy), so I propose:
*All new self photo's for user pages go on commons, and follow their policies ([[Commons:Criteria for
inclusion#Wikimedia_Commons_is_a_common_central_media_repository_of_all_Wikimedia_projects]])
*old ones can stay [at wikinews], we won't delete them for now if there inproperly licensed as the user clearly wants them here, or decide what to do with them later
*any new one's have to be at commons, or they go into the black abyss of death and doom.
note: I'm cc-ing this commons-l, as it concerns them, and I have no idea if they'll like it or not, so if they say no, its not happening. its also posted on the wc at wikinews.
--[[user:bawolff|Bawolff]]
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On 1/26/07, James Hare messedrocker@gmail.com wrote:
I thought it was already our rule to upload free-use images on Commons and reserve Wikinews for fair use.
Yes it is (well sort of, [[category:public domain]] is actually quite big now). so far a lot of these are not "free" (or tagged what so ever) my proposal is that anything for your userpage is at commons or not at all. if you want to license it under CC-by-nc-nd or something else commons doesn't like, its not being uploaded.
-bawolff
User portraits are welcome at Commons, as long as they have source and licensing info. "Self-portrait of [[wn:user:foo]]. {{self|cc-by-2.5}}" is sufficient (for example). I suggest putting them in [[Category:Wikimedians]].
regards, Brianna commons:User:pfctdayelise
On 26/01/07, Brian W bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Note: this is in reference to the english wikinews
We have tons of personal photo's of users for userpages. most of them are not licensed freely, if licensed at all (some of them even claim they are ''fair use'' which is a total load of ...). I personally think that they shouldn't be on wikinews whatsoever (as they'd probably also be on the user's page at wikipedia, etc, and we currently have no policy's regarding them, so it'd just be easier to make them go somewhere that already has a policy), so I propose:
*All new self photo's for user pages go on commons, and follow their policies ([[Commons:Criteria for inclusion#Wikimedia_Commons_is_a_common_central_media_repository_of_all_Wikimedia_projects]])
*old ones can stay [at wikinews], we won't delete them for now if there inproperly licensed as the user clearly wants them here, or decide what to do with them later
*any new one's have to be at commons, or they go into the black abyss of death and doom.
note: I'm cc-ing this commons-l, as it concerns them, and I have no idea if they'll like it or not, so if they say no, its not happening. its also posted on the wc at wikinews.
--[[user:bawolff|Bawolff]]
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Ok thats good, my biggest concern with this was that commons doesn't want them.
On 1/26/07, Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com wrote:
User portraits are welcome at Commons, as long as they have source and licensing info. "Self-portrait of [[wn:user:foo]]. {{self|cc-by-2.5}}" is sufficient (for example). I suggest putting them in [[Category:Wikimedians]].
regards, Brianna commons:User:pfctdayelise
On 26/01/07, Brian W bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Note: this is in reference to the english wikinews
We have tons of personal photo's of users for userpages. most of them are not licensed freely, if licensed at all (some of them even claim they are ''fair use'' which is a total load of ...). I personally think that they shouldn't be on wikinews whatsoever (as they'd probably also be on the user's page at wikipedia, etc, and we currently have no policy's regarding them, so it'd just be easier to make them go somewhere that already has a policy), so I propose:
*All new self photo's for user pages go on commons, and follow their policies ([[Commons:Criteria for inclusion#Wikimedia_Commons_is_a_common_central_media_repository_of_all_Wikimedia_projects]])
*old ones can stay [at wikinews], we won't delete them for now if there inproperly licensed as the user clearly wants them here, or decide what to do with them later
*any new one's have to be at commons, or they go into the black abyss of death and doom.
note: I'm cc-ing this commons-l, as it concerns them, and I have no idea if they'll like it or not, so if they say no, its not happening. its also posted on the wc at wikinews.
--[[user:bawolff|Bawolff]]
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