I spotted an article on French Wikinews that copied another source: http://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Visite_d%27Obama_en_Russie_:_mesures_de_s%C3%A9c...
On
further investigation, I believe Wikinews could copy stories from Russian agency Ria Novosti (en.rian.ru/) in compliance with our licences. Could someone confirm this?
The copyright information is here: http://en.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html
Thanks.
That is not anywhere free enough.
"Text materials published on free-access RIA Novosti web sites may be reproduced by TV channels, radio stations, newspapers or magazines in quantities necessary for information purposes only and crediting RIA Novosti as the source."
Key phrase, "in quantities necessary" - so not all of it. I.e. they're being gracious and giving us the same rights as we already have.
The bit about the RSS feed is also misleading. It will only be the actual feed content you may reproduce - a summary.
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joe Anderson Sent: 05 July 2009 20:00 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikinews-l] Ria Novosti
I spotted an article on French Wikinews that copied another source: http://fr.wikinews.org/wiki/Visite_d%27Obama_en_Russie_:_mesures_de_s%C3%A9c urit%C3%A9_sans_pr%C3%A9c%C3%A9dent
On
further investigation, I believe Wikinews could copy stories from Russian agency Ria Novosti (en.rian.ru/) in compliance with our licences. Could someone confirm this?
The copyright information is here: http://en.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html
Thanks.
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On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
Out of curiosity, do we have a central list somewhere of people who do have compatible licenses? Off the top of my head i can think of Beta, VoA, and that Brazil one. We should have a list somewhere, as i'm sure there are others we've discovered and subsequently collectively forgot about. -- - Bawolff Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Joe Andersoncomputerjoe@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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Good idea if we don't.
On 6 Jul 2009, at 10:51, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity, do we have a central list somewhere of people who do have compatible licenses? Off the top of my head i can think of Beta, VoA, and that Brazil one. We should have a list somewhere, as i'm sure there are others we've discovered and subsequently collectively forgot about. --
- Bawolff
Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Joe Andersoncomputerjoe@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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Oh apparently we already do: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Public_domain_news_sources -- - Bawolff Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Tris Thomastris@waterhay.co.uk wrote:
Good idea if we don't.
On 6 Jul 2009, at 10:51, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity, do we have a central list somewhere of people who do have compatible licenses? Off the top of my head i can think of Beta, VoA, and that Brazil one. We should have a list somewhere, as i'm sure there are others we've discovered and subsequently collectively forgot about. --
- Bawolff
Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Joe Andersoncomputerjoe@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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I would like to point out that in the past, there have been discussions about copying news from sources that have compatible licenses.
The main points of contention center on our requirement of multiple sources and NPOV.
Here is one archived discussion (please don't add to it): http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/Archive/17#Articles...
SVTCobra
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 11:08 -0600, bawolff wrote:
Oh apparently we already do: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Public_domain_news_sources --
- Bawolff
Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Tris Thomastris@waterhay.co.uk wrote:
Good idea if we don't.
On 6 Jul 2009, at 10:51, bawolff bawolff+wn@gmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity, do we have a central list somewhere of people who do have compatible licenses? Off the top of my head i can think of Beta, VoA, and that Brazil one. We should have a list somewhere, as i'm sure there are others we've discovered and subsequently collectively forgot about. --
- Bawolff
Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Joe Andersoncomputerjoe@gmail.com wrote:
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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I would actually point fr.wikinews at my interpretation and get them to stop copying from RIA until they get that clarified.
Remember, copyright automatically reserves all the rights for the content creator. It is through copyleft licensing that you deliberately give up rights. In the absence of a link to a CC license or a public domain notice you can assume works cannot be copied.
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joe Anderson Sent: 06 July 2009 10:02 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Ria Novosti
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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In the Russian version of the copyright statement, the restrictions appear even more stringent. Only blogs and homepages of individuals may use any resources. Some exception is made for educational and informational sites, and a few other organizations. In no way is it compatible with CC-BY.
-ilya
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.orgwrote:
I would actually point fr.wikinews at my interpretation and get them to stop copying from RIA until they get that clarified.
Remember, copyright automatically reserves all the rights for the content creator. It is through copyleft licensing that you deliberately give up rights. In the absence of a link to a CC license or a public domain notice you can assume works cannot be copied.
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joe Anderson Sent: 06 July 2009 10:02 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Ria Novosti
On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org said:
Okay.
I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are).
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In the french version http://fr.rian.ru/about/copyright.html it is said : Les contenus informationnels en accès libre publiés sur le site de RIA Novosti au format RSS peuvent être reproduits par les sites et les pages Internet (y compris par les médias électroniques) avec une référence à RIA Novosti sans restrictions supplémentaires With Google : The information contained in published free on the site of RIA Novosti in RSS format can be played through the sites and web pages (including electronic media) with a reference to RIA Novosti without additional restrictions Rémy Ilya Haykinson a écrit :
In the Russian version of the copyright statement, the restrictions appear even more stringent. Only blogs and homepages of individuals may use any resources. Some exception is made for educational and informational sites, and a few other organizations. In no way is it compatible with CC-BY.
-ilya
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org> wrote:
I would actually point fr.wikinews at my interpretation and get them to stop copying from RIA until they get that clarified. Remember, copyright automatically reserves all the rights for the content creator. It is through copyleft licensing that you deliberately give up rights. In the absence of a link to a CC license or a public domain notice you can assume works cannot be copied. Brian. -----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>] On Behalf Of Joe Anderson Sent: 06 July 2009 10:02 To: wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] Ria Novosti On 2009-07-05 23:16:58 +0100, "Brian McNeil" <brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org <mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org>> said: > http://en.rian.ru/docs/about/copyright.html Okay. I might drop them an email later to confirm (especially considering FR Wikinews are). _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
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