Thomas Dalton wrote:
It's an excellent point. I thought about it a few months ago and considered proposing a new policy banning anything under a week old from being included in Wikipedia articles (actually, it was a little more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it). It would help Wikinews, and would also reduce the number of articles which are a succession of "As June 2006 ..." paragraphs. Current events are not encyclopaedic and it's impossible to write a good encyclopaedia article as soon as something happens, since all the required sources haven't been written yet (you have a handful of newspaper articles which you can simply rewrite and that's it). I ended up not proposing it because I didn't think I was enthusiastic enough about it to survive the torture of trying to get it approved. Anyone think it's worth a shot?
First off, this sounds like an excellent idea for all language variants of Wikipedia to consider and perhaps adopt. Obvious exceptions would be things like deaths where you don't wait to put the appropriate date in the Wikipedia article - but you don't turn it into an obituary either. You do the obit. on Wikinews, and *you can prepare that in advance* on Wikinews. [This may sound gruesome, but in reality someone could start a prepared story for Terry Pratchett's obit today as he's announced he has early-onset Alzheimer's. The media reports and quotes from the man made today will be relevant to the final article when he does pass on.]
Scaling back to something less ambitious would be linking directly from the Wikipedia main page's in the news section to appropriate Wikinews articles. At the moment, at least on en., Wikinews has one link in the in the news section which leads to the main page. This simple step might encourage more Wikipedians to dip their toe in the Wikinews waters and see that it can be a little different contributing on a sister project, perhaps even what some may have experienced when Wikipedia was much smaller and there was more uncharted territory to explore.
I'd be delighted to see anything done that raises the profile of Wikinews on Wikipedia and encourages people to try another project. A Wikipedian-specific introduction would be a start as citation methods differ and there needs to be a big warning that everything published appears on the main page (this may change if we're getting 50 articles a day). So, if you want to progress on this my first suggestion is to find some victims, er... Wikipedians :) who can be persuaded to give Wikinews a shot. Then a structure and set of messages can be developed to make it easier for Wikipedians to transition to writing news and later incorporating it into Wikipedia when things have calmed down and the event can be considered historical.
If you raise anything on Wikipedia about this, please let at least myself know - or bring it up on the Wikinews-l list. I'd like to encourage some of our editors who are more frequent Wikipedia editors than myself to give input.
Brian McNeil
wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org