Yeah but we need to step away from being identified with Wikipedia,
because we are not them. We need our own punch line and really should
not have to mention Wikipedia to make us sound better, although I do see
what you mean. I think a list or RSS of a sort would work perfectly. We
just need subscribers.
Jason
Andrew Lih wrote:
Personally I can't see the mailing list being a
big interest for
folks. People don't really see Wikinews for that function now, as it
doesn't generate enough original content of broad appeal to be useful
in that sense.
I suppose this brings up the bigger discussion of what Wikinews
strengths are and what it should promote itself to be. A few weeks ago
I talked with Mike Halterman on the Wikipedia Weekly podcast about
this. See:
http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/
My view is that Wikinews real strengths are not to compete with
Wikipedia's already masterful role of being the "running log" or
"working draft of history" but instead, Wikinews should focus on what
it is good at:
- Distributed and localized talent
-- Covering one issue across different locales - protests, food
prices, elections, etc.
- First-hand, verifiable observation
-- Interviews with individuals
-- Event coverage
- Multimedia
-- Spot news and event photography
-- Videography
-- Audio interviews or produced podcasts
In this sense Mike and I talked about Wikinews being the actual
accepted place for "original research" to be done in the Wikimedia
community. A transcribed interview with person X, with audio clips as
authentication, can absolutely be a valuable cite-able reference in a
Wikipedia article about person X.
Wikinews has been trying to find its way. Rather than Wikinews trying
replicate every "news" function that exists in the marketplace,
Wikinews could make a bigger impact by emphasizing its strengths. And
Mike's news is encouraging. According to him, PR agents perk up and
give you attention if you say Wikinews is the "reporting arm of
Wikipedia," even if it's not formally the tag line of Wikinews.
Food for thought.
-Andrew
User:Fuzheado
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Jason Safoutin
<jason.safoutin(a)wikinewsie.org <mailto:jason.safoutin@wikinewsie.org>>
wrote:
Mailing list...someone would sign up to receive special exclusive, big
breaking news or original reporting. Interested parties would be
agencies or sites or people who want top republish our articles. CNN
sends out a breaking news e-mail when there is a big story.
Jason
bawolff wrote:
As in RSS feed as a mailing list type thing?
(every time we publish
something it gets sent. Like the daily article list at 'pedia or
daily
image at commons)?
-bawolff
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 PM, <dodge.story(a)wikinewsie.org
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org>
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org>>> wrote:
I was reffering to having a list for Wikinews to send out the
latest breaking news, like Jason said. For example, if we
broke a
big story, something like the Benoit story,
someone could
send out
a message to interested parties. Only certain
people (i.e. our
accredidated reporters) would be allowed to send FROM that
address, but anyone can subscribe.
Dodge S.
----
Dodge Story
Journalist, Wikinews
http://www.wikinews.org
DISCLAIMER:
I do not represent the Wikimedia Foundation in any way shape or
form. I have been accredited by the Wikinews community.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] "Breaking News" mailing list
From: "Brian McNeil" <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org
<mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org>
<mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org
<mailto:brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org>>>
Date: Wed, April 16, 2008 2:46 pm
To: "'Wikinews mailing list'" <wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia
<mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia
<mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia>>.org>
The EFF already has scoop on their mailing list.
-----Original Message-----
*From:* wikinews-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>>
[mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>] *On Behalf Of
*dodge.story(a)wikinewsie.org
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org>
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org
<mailto:dodge.story@wikinewsie.org>>
*Sent:* 16 April 2008 20:37
*To:* wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
*Subject:* [Wikinews-l] "Breaking
News" mailing list
Do you think it would be appropriate for Wikinews to have a
"breaking news" mailing list that people could subscribe to?
For example, CNN has a list, MSNBC, and the Electronic
Frontier Foundation. Perhaps it could be:
breaking-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
breaking-news-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:breaking-news-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:breaking-news-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:breaking-news-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
wikinews-breaking-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:wikinews-breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikinews-breaking-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
----
Dodge Story
Journalist, Wikinews
http://www.wikinews.org
DISCLAIMER:
I do not represent the Wikimedia Foundation in any way shape
or form. I have been accredited by the Wikinews community.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Wikinews-l mailing list
Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <#1195951c82b03876_Compose>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
_______________________________________________
Wikinews-l mailing list
Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
<mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Wikinews-l mailing list
Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
_______________________________________________
Wikinews-l mailing list
Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Wikinews-l mailing list
Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l