Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] [SPAM] Re: Fwd: Re: Wikipedia e-mail (Matthew Edwards' email) From: diego.grez@wikinewsie.org Date: Fri, June 04, 2010 8:17 pm To: "Wikinews mailing list" wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org

We must have wait his response before impossing a community ban on him.

Are you referring to Matthew Edwards? Are you trying to reopen this can of worms?

No. Stop it. Drop it. This circus needs brought to a complete halt; I have not spent hundreds of dollars keeping the wikinewsie.org domain running, put thousands of hours into keeping the project's identity distinct from Wikipedia, and, all-too-often put it before things others would give precedence to, for this sort of shit to happen.

Edwards had my private email, my private phone number, or could have kept us all informed with a single line on-wiki if there was a problem.

None of these things happened; there was his return to Wikipedia editing, and no notification to anyone on Wikinews. Zero response to notification when I removed his Wikinewsie email.

The case is closed, and an un-fucking-believable amount of damage to the community was the outcome.

I don't think making a credible, free, news source is a game. Do you? Newspapers are disappearing behind paywalls; if you do not start thinking a couple of years ahead, then I will have wasted the last five pushing, cajoling, and - sometimes beating - the project and community into a position to capitalise on that.

For the last time, and the last time only, archive these insane flamefests and in-fighting off WN:RFP and WN:AAA. This can be reviewed when we have all had a good time to cool off.

Personally, I'm questioning whether I should renew the Wikinewsie.org domain next month. But, that decision is mine alone. With what has happened in my personal life over the last two years it could, ironically, be considered one of the very few assets I still own. Yet, I hold it for what I see as a common good.

Brian.