As you may or may not be aware of the English Edition of Wikinews used a simple little hack to get RSS feed support for it's news releases. Namely - they use a blogspot account and add posts containing links to wikinews articles, which then appear on the RSS feed, just as normal blog posts do. See http://wikinewslatestnews.blogspot.com/
I decided to use the same workaround to get RSS support on the Polish Edition. But, seeing how the Wikinews feed looks like when compared to BBC World's (BBC feeds copy their regular page design, ours lack any design whatsoever) I though I should take a bit of a more professional approach. So I copied our monobook design and, after a few tweaks, got this: http://wikinews.blog.pl/
The major issue here is the logo. It implies that this site *is* Wikinews, which it is not, obviously. Angela proposed that we modify the logo a bit, so that it reads something like "content from Wikinews" or some such.
There are two reasons I'm bothering you with this: 1) To mobilize you to improve the design of the blogspot page ;) 2) To get some feedback on the possible wording of the modified logo (obviously, the one given above is rather clumsy) and, if anybody's willing to give it a try, see some graphic realisations of it
--- TOR tor@oak.rpg.pl wrote:
As you may or may not be aware of the English Edition of Wikinews used a simple little hack to get RSS feed support for it's news releases. Namely - they use a blogspot account and add posts containing links to wikinews articles, which then appear on the RSS feed, just as normal blog posts do. See http://wikinewslatestnews.blogspot.com/
I decided to use the same workaround to get RSS support on the Polish Edition. But, seeing how the Wikinews feed looks like when compared to BBC World's (BBC feeds copy their regular page design, ours lack any design whatsoever) I though I should take a bit of a more professional approach. So I copied our monobook design and, after a few tweaks, got this: http://wikinews.blog.pl/
The major issue here is the logo. It implies that this site *is* Wikinews, which it is not, obviously. Angela proposed that we modify the logo a bit, so that it reads something like "content from Wikinews" or some such.
Just a question : is it very important that the logo be here ?
ant
There are two reasons I'm bothering you with this:
- To mobilize you to improve the design of the
blogspot page ;) 2) To get some feedback on the possible wording of the modified logo (obviously, the one given above is rather clumsy) and, if anybody's willing to give it a try, see some graphic realisations of it
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I'm not too worried about cases like this one, where there's clearly good faith and no advertising, but I think that a "Content by WikiXXX" logo would be excellent for all our projects and a good way to deal with the whole logo mess in a more relaxed fashion. Should we organize some kind of contest to come up with a standardized design for this? This could incorporate the existing logo designs, but should be sufficiently visually distinct, perhaps by adding an additional visual element (arrow or similar).
Best,
Erik
Anthere wrote:
Just a question : is it very important that the logo be here ?
Well... We want people to know what they're reading, right? :) Graphic representation is far more efficient than text. There should be *some* logo there, easily identifiable with Wikinews, not necessarily "the" logo.
I think Erik's idea of a logo contest is nice. Contests are always nice. :)
At the same time, if you want to recognise it is from Wikinews, you basically need the same logo or an extremely similar one. If it is slightly different, some people might simply think this is a site trying to mirror us, but not the real stuff. Perhaps a sort of graphics saying "Using wikinews content", with a tiny wikinews in a corner might do the trick.
Ant
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Anthere wrote:
Just a question : is it very important that the
logo
be here ?
Well... We want people to know what they're reading, right? :) Graphic representation is far more efficient than text. There should be *some* logo there, easily identifiable with Wikinews, not necessarily "the" logo.
I think Erik's idea of a logo contest is nice. Contests are always nice. :)
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On 6/19/05, Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
At the same time, if you want to recognise it is from Wikinews, you basically need the same logo or an extremely similar one. If it is slightly different, some people might simply think this is a site trying to mirror us, but not the real stuff. Perhaps a sort of graphics saying "Using wikinews content", with a tiny wikinews in a corner might do the trick.
Agreed with Anthere, no use for a contest, the logos should be the same exactly. The issue came up on various occasions, for various projects. People link to the wikimedia projects all the time, and we do not have simple buttons like Firefox has for example. I am willing to work on some, so as to have buttons available for people who wish to credit us with more than a link.
Question is, what should those buttons say? I see a few possibilities depending on logo/content uses :
*This site uses material from <name of the project> *This site uses content from <name of the project> *please visit <name of the project> for more information *Find out more on <name of the project>
Any other ideas?
Delphine
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I would go with "This site uses content from <project>". That says what needs to be said.
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On Jun 19, 2005, at 10:54, Delphine Ménard wrote:
On 6/19/05, Anthere anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
At the same time, if you want to recognise it is from Wikinews, you basically need the same logo or an extremely similar one. If it is slightly different, some people might simply think this is a site trying to mirror us, but not the real stuff. Perhaps a sort of graphics saying "Using wikinews content", with a tiny wikinews in a corner might do the trick.
Agreed with Anthere, no use for a contest, the logos should be the same exactly. The issue came up on various occasions, for various projects. People link to the wikimedia projects all the time, and we do not have simple buttons like Firefox has for example. I am willing to work on some, so as to have buttons available for people who wish to credit us with more than a link.
Question is, what should those buttons say? I see a few possibilities depending on logo/content uses :
*This site uses material from <name of the project> *This site uses content from <name of the project> *please visit <name of the project> for more information *Find out more on <name of the project>
Any other ideas?
Delphine
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