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Hello, all of you
by jacques.divol 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

hi, Just this entry in order to present myself. I am Jacques Divol, and i acting on the French (speaking) part of the wikinews community as 'Divol' (yes it's my true name) I have also entries into fr.wikipedia and commons but because of news info needed. It's seem that I AM A BIT ALONE I am checking why French speaking people into fr.wikipedia are so AGAINST fr.wikinews. it's strange in my POV. jacques Divol (sorry my resume into fr.wikinews is just in french, normal ...! :) i am 40 2 kids and a wife 15 years of Computer Scientist (Mastere Diploma in the new European rules) jacques

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Registration for Wikimania started
by Elisabeth Bauer 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Hi all, Registration for Wikimania, the first international Wikimedia conference is now possible on http://wikimania.wikimedia.org We'd like to invite all participants of the wikimedia projects to join this big event in summer 2005. Wikimania will take place from 4th to 8th august 2005 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. The event will combine Wikimedia community discussions and software hacking with academic research, presentations of current implementations, and user/community panels. Wiki fans, community members, and developers are all invited to attend. We are also encouraging presentation and content submissions for the conference; for more information, see the call for papers (http://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_papers). Please pass this message along to all Wikimedia projects, in english or translating it (for coordination see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests/Wikimania/Announcement) If you'd like to help or have ideas for the conference, don't hesitate to contact us at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Feedback (or just ask here on the mailing list). Wikimania is an event from the community for the community - it will live from your participation ;-) greetings and hope to see you in summer, elian, for the Wikimania organisation team

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Italian Wikinews set up
by Erik Moeller 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

In accordance with the language policy, the Italian edition of Wikinews has been set up and announced in the proper channels: http://it.wikinews.org/ Following the recommended process for new language editions, the participants have also prepared several pages on Meta, which should be imported into the live site shortly. All best, Erik

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Wikinews writing contest launched
by Erik Moeller 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

The English Wikinews writing contest has now officially begun. See http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Writing_contest for details. This is a contest of endurance; I will try to maintain a daily log of the survivors. I encourage readers from other Wikinews editions to observe the contest and decide whether it makes sense to implement a local equivalent. All best, Erik

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Wikimedia Commons File Upload Service
by Erik Moeller 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Hi, situation today: a Wikipedian at a meetup shows me a collection of at least 100 beautiful high-resolution photos from Ecuador. Unfortunately, only a couple of them are on the German Wikipedia, and none are on the Commons. He's perfectly willing to make them GFDL, though. I offered to do the uploading for him, but it occurred to me that a more general solution might be in order. Hence, I've just launched an experimental file upload service for the Wikimedia Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_upload_service (please translate!) The idea is that people who are not comfortable using the Commons directly (such as non-Wikimedians), or who want to upload a large number of files, can contact a registered helper who will batch-upload them. I can obviously only handle a limited number of such requests, so I encourage anyone familiar with handling an upload bot to add themselves to the list of helpers. If you can't handle large email attachments, let me know, and I can give you an account on my FTP space. Note that this is really a workaround for the Commons not being as user-friendly as it should be (no single login, no easy upload form, no batch upload support, categorization requires wiki knowledge). Eventually, I'd like this to become obsolete. I'm posting this announcement to foundation-l, wikipedia-l, wikinews-l, and commons-l, since all these projects are affected. Please forward/translate the message for other affected projects. All best, Erik

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uk.wikinews.org launched
by Erik Moeller 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

As announced yesterday, I have set up http://uk.wikinews.org/ (Ukrainian) in accordance with the existing language policy and notified the interested participants. This is also the first time the optional additional process at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_language_pre-launch has been used. Related question: Should I continue announcing new Wikinews editions to foundation-l, or is it enough to post to wikinews-l? I don't want to spam the list with this. Coming up next is probably Italian. All best, Erik

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Wikinews and blogs - revisited
by Christian Melsbach 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Hi Erik about Wikinews and blogs: "One idea which has been discussed was the creation of a global real-time forum for citizen journalists from various different projects (individual blogs, Indymedia, OhMyNews, etc.). This would be quite a challenge, but something I would like to pursue further" http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Eloquence/State_of_the_Wiki:_February_26%2… I care for Wikinews and I think a collaboration between Wikinews and all those bloggers out there would be a great idea. I´ve also read the chatlog and I´m curious: Is there a certain place where people discuss about a "global real-time forum" ? I think a good start would be a webbased forum (all mentioned people above have access to the web) where further discussion can take place. greetings Christian

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10+ English Wikinews stories containing original reporting published
by Erik Moeller 13 Mar '05

13 Mar '05

Along with the 1,000 page milestone, another small milestone has been reached on the English Wikinews: The 10th article containing original reporting has been published. Since this has been one of a major points of contention when Wikinews was first proposed, I'd like to give you all a brief overview of the progress on this front so far. When we have the 100th article containing original reporting, I'd also like to send out a brief press release. First of all, I think all the original reporting stories we've had so far were responsibly written and reasonably well-researched. Reporters are encouraged by policy to publish their notes (e-mails, transcripts, etc.) for other people to check, as is common within real editorial offices. The policy governing original reporting is at: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Original_reporting A list of all such articles can be found at: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Original_reporting The process for becoming an "official" Wikinews reporter is at: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Credentials What "original reporting" means in practice varies from case to case. Since there are only 10 such articles so far, it is reasonable to take a look at each of them: 1) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Cambridge_Planning_Board_approves_new_science_b… What the reporter did: took photos of the construction site and the notice of public hearing. 2) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bright_object_falls_from_sky_over_northwest_Uni… What the reporter did: observe the object and describe his observation. (The report has also been confirmed through other sources.) Interesting: The report was first submitted through the http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Submit_a_story interface. 3) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Unrest_in_Belize What the reporter did: observe the protests, describe his observations, and take photos. (This was a scoop on the western mainstream media.) 4) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Report_urges_Kenya_to_ban_plastic_bags What the reporter did: contact the US Film and Bag Federation and ask them for a comment on a proposed tax on paper and plastic bags. 5) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/New_York_Public_Library_opens_collection_of_275… What the reporter did: contact the NYPL and Larry Lessig regarding the question whether public domain art can be encumbered with license or usage fees. 6) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Iraqi_elections_kept_low-key%2C_but_secure%2C_i… What the reporter did: observe the voting process and take photos of the polling stations. 7) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/GAA:_Westmeath_beat_Donegal_by_narrowest_of_mar… What the reporter did: watch a football game and write a report. 8) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/First_Swahili_office_suite_released_in_Dar_es_S… What the reporter did: conduct an extensive interview with project leader Alberto Escudero-Pascual. / /9) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Conference_discusses_the_credibility_of_blogs What the reporter did: provide coverage directly from the conference and send it to other Wikinewsies via IRC who then summarized it in the article. 10) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Atlas_V_rocket_launches_with_Inmarsat_satellite What the reporter did: watch a webcast of the launch and describe it. --------- So in this small selection, we already have everything from eyewitness reports to collaborative efforts to email inquiries to webcasts. I think this is a good sign. Of course, our reporting is necessarily completely unevenly spread about different topics at this point, but hopefully, it will normalize over time. On a related note, the German Wikinews has also published a significant number of stories containing original reporting, mostly on very local topics. These aren't categorized as on the English WN, but they can be found through: http://de.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Whatlinkshere&target=Wikin… I would be interested in hearing about the state of original reporting on other Wikinews editions. All best, Erik

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1,000th article
by Ciaran Gorman 13 Mar '05

13 Mar '05

Wikinews passed the 1,000 article milestown today! The story in question was an original report of a football match. Hopeful the 2,000 mark will come sooner than this one! - Ciaran

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To stop using Wiki Commons as our default Wikinews image source
by Anthere 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

One approach might be to begin to think of which types of fair use images could be allowed. For example, when making an article about a firm, it might be authorized to use the logo of this firm in fair use. For example, when making an article about a movie just making it for an oscar, it might be authorized to use a small representation of the movie poster. Ant ------- I am sympathetic to this, but I think that there needs to be a fairly tight policy. As an example, we really can't take a photo from Reuters and claim fair use -- our use is too similar to theirs, competes with theirs, etc. I think it's worth discussing at length so we can get our heads clear about what the exact bounds should be. Commons-only is very safe for now, but your point is valid of course. David Speakman wrote: > C&P from the Wikinews watercooler: > > > I officially propose that we institute an "Image:" upload capability > into the Wikinews area and drop the use of Wiki Commons as our default > image upload site and article image server since it will harm the depth > of our news coverage. The use of Wiki Commons as our image source will > hamper us since [[w:fair use]] images are not allowed there. It is my > belief that news sometimes needs fair use graphics -- case in point: the > "Wells Fargo and Barclay's rumoured to be in merger talks" article in > which I inserted a Wells Fargo and Barclays logo - which visually helps > the story. But since we use Wiki Commons for our image source, this > graphic will most likely be deleted, leaving the story text-only. -- > Davodd | Talk 10:13, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC) > > > -- > David Speakman > http://www.DavidSpeakman.com > 501 Moorpark Way #83 > Mountain View CA 94041 __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

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