Hi Emmanuel,
Thanks for your detailed help!
Taking it to the logical next step, I've created a wiki page for this
campaign:
http://education.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia_For_Schools_Offline_Edition
I will do my best to incorporate all your advice there; requesting you to
jump in as well!
All are requested to gather here and collaborate! (including mumbai and pune
wikipedia lists here as well). Urging the volunteers who obtain the
wikipedia for schools dump to enlist themselves here, and we'll be listing
the schools that we empower - one by one!
I'm proud to mention that a school I'm volunteering in Pune, where some
Teach For India fellows are teaching, is the first "empowered" school, where
I've installed Wikipedia for Schools in the computer lab and the office!
It's an under-resourced school but now the kids there have access to a
wealth of knowledge! And you should see them in action!
Why I created the page in wikia : In Wikipedia, when I went to create a new
page, it clearly said the content ought to be encyclopedic in nature -
whereas THIS is more of a movement and recruitment page. So to be on the
safe side I went to the education wikia where things are a little sparse ;).
I've worked with wikia in toastmasters.wikia.com and am comfortable with it.
If anyone can establish a good location on wikipedia itself, which doesn't
get deleted later, and migrate everything there, it'll be great! There are
lots of external links on this so need to be careful.
Further plans (if you guys can help!):
1. A proliferation meetup where a lot of us can get together and copy the
dump to our laptop/netbook/USB drive. 1 goes to 20... and we can scale up
the project like crazy.
2. To tie up with DVD distributors and bulk-produce, provided the costs are
as low as humanly possible. Maybe Wikimedia India could maintain a stock?
(Seemingly Impossible) Requests:
1. Can anybody add a link to versions of Kiwix that work on non-Windows OS's
like Linux, Apple, Android? My focus is on Android, for future mobile
perspective...
2. Can we get a version of this that doesn't have Image files? Then the size
will be much lesser. Of course, that's less attractive, but I'm looking for
an opportunity to take this to mobile devices. How can we edit a .ZIM file?
Cheers,
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart <emmanuel(a)engelhart.org
> wrote:
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> Hi.
>
> On 20/01/2011 03:29, Nikhil Sheth wrote:
> > I'm trying to spread wikipedia for schools offline edition in my
> > city/country. Got some interested people to join in the project at the
> > wikipedia
> > 10th anniversary meetup at Mumbai,
> > India.<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/WikipediaDay2011>,
> > i've included them in cc.
> >
> > I've set up a mirror website hosting the large file in parts because
> several
> > people had complained they couldn't download the original thing.
> > http://wikipediaforschools.4shared.com
> >
> > I wasn't aware of your webpage back then so used a .ZIM file that I found
> on
> > http://www.kiwix.org : schools-wikipedia-full-20081023-rc5.zim
> >
> > I hope I'm not hosting the wrong file??
>
> This is a great initiative.
>
> The Wikipedia for schools team did not prepare any ZIM file, but
> provides the collection of articles as a static set of HTML pages and
> media files directly usable by any browser.
>
> Kiwix (so I) prepared a ZIM file containing exactly these collection of
> HTML and media files to provide following advantages:
> * smaller
> * simpler to copy
> * Compatible with Kiwix and any ZIM compatbile reader and so provide
> additional features like the fulltext search engine for example.
> * ...
>
> To answer to your question, yes schools-wikipedia-full-20081023-rc5.zim
> is the last ZIM of the last Wikipedia for schools selection.
>
> > Could you please give me this info:
> > In the press releas<
> http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/charity-news/archive/2008/10/2008-wi…
> >e,
> > a .Torrent file is linked :
> >
> http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/static/schools-wikipedia-full-200810…
> > I need to know what are the contents of this .tar.gz file.
> > Is it for windows or for linux? Is it the same .zim file only? Is it
> using
> > kiwix or something else? Is it pre-indexed?
>
> I think I have answered before to these questions.
>
> > On a blog post I created for this, someone posted a link to a large .zip
> > saying this is a pre-indexed packaged version:
> > http://download.kiwix.org/portable/wikipedia_en_for_schools.zip
>
> I was.
>
> > So is that the one I should be going with? The current one I'm hosting
> needs
> > a small first-run procedure that has to be done on every computer I put
> it
> > in, of opening the .zim file from kiwix and then indexing it. Also, I had
> > problems with some older computers - the indexing never took off and we
> are
> > limited to click-browsing on those computers.
>
> Your procedure is OK, but with the ZIP file I have proposed this is
> simpler: you just need to unzip and use Kiwix, install it if you want.
> No indexing process is needed any more, this is already done.
>
> We know, they are some weird behaviours related to some specific Win
> configurations which cause search engine related components failures.
> This is under investigation and we hope to be able to fix it before the
> final Kiwix 0.9 release.
>
> In any case, in the "install" directory of Kiwix, you should find this
> file:
> http://download.kiwix.org/dev/vcredist_x86.exe
>
> Please install it and it should fix the last problems.
>
> > Moving on from the downloading aspect, I want to set up a wiki page that
> > will track the proliferation of Wikipedia for Schools. But I can't figure
> > out where to create it, what name to give it and other things. So need a
> > little help there. (wikipedians, you can help?)
>
> I have no special idea about that, but a few remarks.
>
> Wikipedia for schools is the project of "SOS children village UK" and
> I'm sure they will be happy to get feedback directly from you.
>
> Kiwix also. We have already a map with involved people, developers and
> users. So feel free to add new points on it:
> http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Map
>
> > And finally, could you connect me with more people in India who are
> > associated with this project or may be interested in networking on it? Is
> > there a facebook page on this? Mind if I set one up?
>
> Not a lot of people from India have contact us, but I will send you
> separately a few email addresses.
>
> I'm personally really interested to any project concerning the spreading
> of Kiwix and also to any feedback (feature request, bug reports, etc.)
>
> Regards
> Emmanuel
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hi,
Arun just sent me this note. Forwarded for your reference as well.
warm regards,
Pradeep
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Arun Ramarathnam <arunram25(a)gmail.com>
Date: 25 January 2011 23:42
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-in-mum] Page on GLAM Mumbai
To: Pradeep Mohandas <pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com>
Thanks for sharing this Pradeep.
Please note, there is also a planning page place holder page created for you
all to consider using:
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:GLAM_2011/Mumbai_Feb2011/Planning
I have created the overall event page for Liam's visit is here:
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:GLAM_2011
regards
Arun
Bangalore, India
www.twitter.com/arunram
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohandas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> Arun Ram has created this page:
> http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:GLAM_2011/Mumbai_Feb2011 for the meeting
> with Liam Wyatt. He has listed me as a "key contact".
>
> Please feel free to use and edit the page as more information becomes
> available. Also, more ideas and suggestions for venue for the event are also
> welcome here and on the discussion page. If you would like to
> participate/get involved with GLAM do leave your name there.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Wikimedia-in-mum(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum
>
>
hi,
Arun Ram has created this page:
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:GLAM_2011/Mumbai_Feb2011 for the meeting
with Liam Wyatt. He has listed me as a "key contact".
Please feel free to use and edit the page as more information becomes
available. Also, more ideas and suggestions for venue for the event are also
welcome here and on the discussion page. If you would like to
participate/get involved with GLAM do leave your name there.
warm regards,
Pradeep
Dear wikimedians in Mumbai,
It's a pleasure to informally announce that Liam Wyatt (user wittylama) will
be in Mumbai 12-14 February as part of a longer visit to India to do some
GLAM work.
Liam recently became a Wikimedia Fellow -
http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2011/01/19/announcing-our-glam-fellow-liam-w…
As part of this, his visit to India is intended to support wikimedia
communities to explore the possibilities of collaborating with Galleries,
Libraries, Archives and Museums (GLAM) in strengthening articles on
wikipedia of mutual interest.
Liam was the wikipedian in
residence<http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2010/07/10/the-royal-cup-bridges-wikipedia-a…>at
the British Museum last year - I attended his presentation on this at
Wikimania in July 2010 and was struck by the possibilities it threw up of
working with GLAM institutions.
We're extremely lucky to have Liam with us; how can we make his visit
productive for all?
I propose a meetup/workshop for sure; somewhere central so that more
wikipedians can attend - and so that representatives of GLAM institutions,
many of which are based in south Mumbai can also participate. (Maybe
something longer - so we can really learn from the experience...)
Cheers - and let's welcome Liam to Mumbai,
Bishakha
PS- The Kala Ghoda Arts Festival 2011 is also on in Mumbai when you are
here, Liam.
hi,
In the past 7 meetups that we've had in Mumbai, it has been observed that
the topic related to inputing of Indic texts has been a point in which
several people have differing opinions and interesting discussions. Some of
these have been cut down in the past due to lack of time. This has also
sometimes led to some articles not being discussed not related to Indic
Wikipedia as well.
I would suggest that we organise a Wikipedia with a specific intention of
discussing the Indic language Wikipedia input methods. People interested in
and who had raised concern about the same in the last meetup may be
interested in this.
If people are interested, we should organise a meetup for this. Volunteers
are welcome.
warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas
HI,
I'm trying to spread wikipedia for schools offline edition in my
city/country. Got some interested people to join in the project at the
wikipedia
10th anniversary meetup at Mumbai,
India.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Mumbai/WikipediaDay2011>,
i've included them in cc.
I've set up a mirror website hosting the large file in parts because several
people had complained they couldn't download the original thing.
http://wikipediaforschools.4shared.com
I wasn't aware of your webpage back then so used a .ZIM file that I found on
http://www.kiwix.org : schools-wikipedia-full-20081023-rc5.zim
I hope I'm not hosting the wrong file??
Could you please give me this info:
In the press releas<http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/charity-news/archive/2008/10/2008-wi…>e,
a .Torrent file is linked :
http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/static/schools-wikipedia-full-200810…
I need to know what are the contents of this .tar.gz file.
Is it for windows or for linux? Is it the same .zim file only? Is it using
kiwix or something else? Is it pre-indexed?
On a blog post I created for this, someone posted a link to a large .zip
saying this is a pre-indexed packaged version:
http://download.kiwix.org/portable/wikipedia_en_for_schools.zip
So is that the one I should be going with? The current one I'm hosting needs
a small first-run procedure that has to be done on every computer I put it
in, of opening the .zim file from kiwix and then indexing it. Also, I had
problems with some older computers - the indexing never took off and we are
limited to click-browsing on those computers.
Moving on from the downloading aspect, I want to set up a wiki page that
will track the proliferation of Wikipedia for Schools. But I can't figure
out where to create it, what name to give it and other things. So need a
little help there. (wikipedians, you can help?)
And finally, could you connect me with more people in India who are
associated with this project or may be interested in networking on it? Is
there a facebook page on this? Mind if I set one up?
Cheers,
Nikhil Sheth
+91-966-583-1250
Teach For India Fellow 2011-13
Pune, India
www.nikhilsheth.tk
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From: Nikhil Sheth <nikhil.js(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Nikhil, a news tip
To: Simon Owens <simon.bloggasm(a)gmail.com>
Hi Simon,
Great job done!!
This video already got posted in the main blog
post<http://technosophi.blogspot.com/2011/01/10th-anniversary-of-wikipedia-mumba…>that
reported on this event and I'll share this too, as did something else
I've set up and would need some help in:
Wikipedia For Schools - offline version
We want to put wikipedia for schools offline version in each and every
school and non-internet-connected computer in India. I've implemented it at
one under-resourced school for poor kids in Pune (my hometown) and the
results are amazing - kids who have never seen the internet are suddenly
surfing through all sorts of articles using this - it's empowering in a way
that has never happened before.
Many people were having problems downloading the 2.6 GB Wikipedia for
Schools .ZIM file from Kiwix, so after the meetup, I've split it into 100MB
parts and uploaded here. Also made a torrent which I'm hosting (need more
seeders!)
http://wikipediaforschools.4shared.com
The README file there has instructions on how to go about it.
So I need help in spreading the word. I want to set up a website (preferably
a wiki only) where people can enlist the schools where they pledge to
install this, and then come back and confirm when the deed is done. I also
want to reach out to computer vendors to install it in all computers that
they sell or repair. I'd start off with India but this can go international
as well.
Let me know if you can help with this project, and feedback if I'm doing
something wrong.
And Kudos for the amazing video again!
Cheers,
Nikhil Sheth
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Simon Owens <simon.bloggasm(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Hey Nikhil,
>
> I read your post the other day mentioning Wikipedia's 10th anniversary. I
> work with a group that teamed up with Jimmy Wales to create a video on the
> state of Wikipedia (Wales narrates the video). We depicted an animated
> history of the site and detailed where Wales would like to see it head in
> the future:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXD1TRGafQ0
>
> Anyway, I thought this was something you and your readers would find
> interesting.
>
> Take care,
> Simon
>
>
>
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